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Old 01-08-2014   #1341
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For those questioning whether the #Browns rumors on Manziel are legit this early, Lombardi can't help his obsession. Hoyer was it last yr.

Once Manziel announces his intention today to enter this year's draft, the speculation officially starts for the #Browns to draft him.


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Young had a 3/4 throwing motion also. Plus, his issue was never physical it was mental. Doesn't matter how many tools you have if you don't understand the gameplan and the can't get the playbook.
we basically said the same thing...
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This is great for us. We need to trade all our late round picks and get as many 4th and Lower round picks as possible.
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Do you understand how big a size 15 foot is? I mean, I wear a size 7.
That lap band is really working for Chris Christie .
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A lot of Johnny's game may get developed, but if I'm a GM, I'm not using anything higher than a 3rd round pick. Still wouldn't sleep well.

Down field routes, Johnny doesn't throw, he "flings". Mechanics are sloppy. Literally flips feet during the throw. All natural, no technique

Not breaking news, but he's exceptional at evading tackles...so much so that he evades rather than step up in the pocket.

Manziel struggles on passes outside the numbers to the "field" side. Usually bounces them to the target or WR readjusts.

Manziel hardly ever shows ability to make touch passes & has a tendency to write a short Haiku, point a la Babe Ruth, & then throw to his WR

Half way thru the 4th qtr of the Duke game is when I actually saw Johnny look comfortable & flow thru progressions.

Manziel will need drastic improvements in his mechanics, similar to what Cam Newton showed from George Whitfield leading into rookie year.

He should change his name to Johnny Mnemonic cause his progressions are robotic even though his running skills are futuristic.

Manziel routinely gets comfortable w/ this protection & it's made for elongated reads thru progressions.

I like Johnny & think he's exciting to watch in college. His internal clock is off due to 5-6 seconds of clean O-line protection.

I don't view Johnny as Russell Wilson. I see more Mike Vick in his game, w/ a weaker arm & better accuracy.

I'll grow convictions to each one of my evaluations & I don't do the whole twitter debate. If you disagree that's fine. I've been wrong b4.

IF this is the first time you followed me during draft season, understand that I'll say IMO on each prospect. Nothing is absolute.

That's not to say that he won't be in the 1st or even the top 10. I didn't view Blaine Gabbert or Ryan Tannehill as top of the 1st talent

I haven't watched every game of Johnny Manziel, but I've watched enough to say that IN MY OPINION he's not worth a 1st rd pick.
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Yeah, I don't get it the "first pick with Manziel" logic either. I would love to have a Texas boy as our QB. That would kick ass! However, he's not a home run pick. He's not mechanically sound and he makes a lot of off schedule plays that will simply have a mighty lesser chance of happening in today's NFL. No one should ever be convinced that before Manziel ever puts on a NFL uniform, that those off-scheduled plays will work. And don't try to tell me he's like Russell Wilson because he's not. I think the idea of comparing proven QB's to college QB's is pretty dumb to be honest. It's like trying to compare music artists. They're ALL different.

He couldn't be professional enough to finish out the Manning Academy and he likes to party. That is proven. Does that make him a bad person? Hell no. I love to have fun and drink. It's why I never want to move back to Houston from Austin. Here's the thing, do you honestly think Bob, Rick, and Bill are going to spend the first f'n pick of the draft on JFF after possibly their worst season in franchise history? Do you really think they are willing to do that?

If so, please explain why they would skip on a squeaky-clean, just as competitive, and very talented QB in Teddy for the Wild Card that is JFF.
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Don't be too quick to judge, he actually posts some great analysis from time to time.
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Happy feet much? Well blocked play. Could have just stood in there and made the throw it seems to me.
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And same play from a different angle where he has a wide open crossing pattern for a TD but got happy feet. Also, hugely busted coverage with two Bama defenders covering nothing out wide to the left.

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