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Those obsessed with cursing are usually linguistically and verbally challenged. Most respectable folk grow out of this phase shortly after Junior High.
As far as respectable goes, it's how you personally define it. That obviously changes from person to person.


As far as your other statement, being verbally challenged, that isn't true at all. Just want to put that out there.
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O'Brien on ESPNU right now.

Breaking down film... very sharp, knows the players.
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That's not true.

Of course, it depends on how you define "respectable."
Of course it's not true. Pope Marshall has a tendency to wear "1950's era rose colored glasses".

But, far be it for the truth to remove those glasses:

Top Profanity in POTUS History

Turns out GW Bush loves the "f word". I think it's the most versatile of cuss words myself, being used as a noun, verb, adjective, etc., and it rhymes with so many other words that it's great for heavy metal and blues!

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Before he even got into office, Bush’s profane tendencies were on display. In 1999, during an interview with Tucker Carlson for Talk Magazine, George W. Bush dropped the F-bomb several times.
Turns out Mark Twain - you know, the American literary icon - LOVED to cuss. Had a special room just to do it in, too.

But my fav is Harry Truman. One of the last truly great presidents:

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"I never did give them hell,” he said. “I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell."

During a 1960 presidential debate, Kennedy demurred when asked about whether Truman should apologize for nasty things he said about Nixon and Eisenhower.

“They are not my style, but I really don't think there's anything that I could say to President Truman that's going to cause him, at the age of 76, to change his particular speaking manner,” Kennedy said. “Perhaps Mrs. Truman can, but I don't think I can.”

Truman’s language became increasingly unvarnished after he left the White House in 1953.
But hey, only "respectable folk" grow out of it.

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Just a vision i had from the......FUTURE !!!
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O'Brien on ESPNU right now.

Breaking down film... very sharp, knows the players.
OB kept emphasizing opponents can't let those FSU receivers get off the line untouched earlier this week -- Auburn did just that, knocked their timing off.
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Was it this clip? Short and sweet but I'll take anything to get my "cant wait" fix in...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY9pQiVRRRs&sns=em
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Man if you can't get excited about wholesale changes like what's happening now then I guess one such as yourself should continue to wallow in your hate and misery.

I bet you're a real hoot around the christmas tree.
I, for one, can't get "excited" until there's something to get excited about. This new dude - and I mean O'Brien - hasn't done anything of note as yet. I do know this. I have much higher expectations from him than I did from Kubiak when he got here.
- He is inheriting a much, much better cast of characters than Kubiak inherited when he got here.
- He's not saddled with the owner's damaged "fair-haired boy" at QB and actually gets to pick his own guy.
- If Foster heals properly he'll have a stud at RB (and speaking of which, what are the odds of that Doc??).
- He'll have a stud at LT, a solid guy at center, and some decent prospects at the other O-line spots; something it took the previous regime three drafts to find and another year or two to fully develop.
- He has an all-time great at WR plus some potential studs at the other WR spots as well at TE.

All the offensive pieces - except QB - are here for this "offensive genius" to make work. And he gets to pick his own guy at QB.

I wanna see what he does with this loaded toy box before I get "excited".

Or will he throw it all away and start over like he did the whole coaching staff??
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I, for one, can't get "excited" until there's something to get excited about. This new dude - and I mean O'Brien - hasn't done anything of note as yet. I do know this. I have much higher expectations from him than I did from Kubiak when he got here.
- He is inheriting a much, much better cast of characters than Kubiak inherited when he got here.
- He's not saddled with the owner's damaged "fair-haired boy" at QB and actually gets to pick his own guy.
- If Foster heals properly he'll have a stud at RB (and speaking of which, what are the odds of that Doc??).
- He'll have a stud at LT, a solid guy at center, and some decent prospects at the other O-line spots; something it took the previous regime three drafts to find and another year or two to fully develop.
- He has an all-time great at WR plus some potential studs at the other WR spots as well at TE.

All the offensive pieces - except QB - are here for this "offensive genius" to make work. And he gets to pick his own guy at QB.

I wanna see what he does with this loaded toy box before I get "excited".

Or will he throw it all away and start over like he did the whole coaching staff??

You sound critical of the fact that he fired the staff? Am I reading it right? If so, this staff should have been fired, and should not have been allowed to give input on the players. Period.

Kubiak's staff has no say in evaluating these players. O'Brien's staff does.

Also, yes, he inherits a better team than Kubiak did, but, remember: Kubiak inherited 2-14 and left behind 2-14.




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I, for one, can't get "excited" until there's something to get excited about. This new dude - and I mean O'Brien - hasn't done anything of note as yet. I do know this. I have much higher expectations from him than I did from Kubiak when he got here.
- He is inheriting a much, much better cast of characters than Kubiak inherited when he got here.
- He's not saddled with the owner's damaged "fair-haired boy" at QB and actually gets to pick his own guy.
- If Foster heals properly he'll have a stud at RB (and speaking of which, what are the odds of that Doc??).
- He'll have a stud at LT, a solid guy at center, and some decent prospects at the other O-line spots; something it took the previous regime three drafts to find and another year or two to fully develop.
- He has an all-time great at WR plus some potential studs at the other WR spots as well at TE.

All the offensive pieces - except QB - are here for this "offensive genius" to make work. And he gets to pick his own guy at QB.

I wanna see what he does with this loaded toy box before I get "excited".

Or will he throw it all away and start over like he did the whole coaching staff??
Obis, what incoming HC doesn't "throw it all away and start over like he did the whole coaching staff"? They all do if they're not in Jerrah World. You're probably right about tempering somewhat but right now, yeah, I'm excited. Even if this is the third 1-1 with a new coach I feel it's quite different this time. Hey, I may be jilted but for the time being I'm going to allow myself some optimism.

We'll all watch and see what happens together, I'm sure.
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We totally should've kept the entire staff and gone 2-14 again next year. They fired themselves with weekly **** bag performances. This is more of the everyone gets a participation ribbon and no one is held accountable mindset. I for one am glad they're all gone.
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I understand trashcanning the staff responsible for a 2-14 season. That's to be expected. My question is why? Because he didn't think any of them could do the job?
Fair enough.
But if O'Brien fired them all so he can bring in his own set of buddies (like Kubiak did) without looking around the league, or in the college ranks, to see who might be BETTER than his buddies at each position, well, this sounds eeriely like the way things unfolded with Kubiak and with Capers before him...

....we just left that movie didn't we? I thought this was supposed to be different.

I got "excited" with Kubiak before all the results were in. Not doing that with O'Brien.

Like you say, we'll all find out together.
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I understand trashcanning the staff responsible for a 2-14 season. That's to be expected. My question is why? Because he didn't think any of them could do the job?
Fair enough.
But if O'Brien fired them all so he can bring in his own set of buddies (like Kubiak did) without looking around the league, or in the college ranks, to see who might be BETTER than his buddies at each position, well, this sounds eeriely like the way things unfolded with Kubiak and with Capers before him...

....we just left that movie didn't we? I thought this was supposed to be different.

I got "excited" with Kubiak before all the results were in. Not doing that with O'Brien.

Like you say, we'll all find out together.
I think it's an unrealistic expectation for it to be different. Sure, a lot of people whined and moaned about the "good old boy" network with Kubiak hiring guys he knew and had worked with before, but almost every coach out there does the same thing.

Occasionally, you get a situation like Dungy had coming to the Colts and Gruden had coming to the Buccs where the HC is coming in and part of the team is already solid. Like Kiffen as DC in Tampa Bay or Moore as the OC with the Colts. In those cases, the Coach will leave that side of the ball alone.

Situations like they had in Dallas where Jerry hired Garrett as the OC before hiring Wade as the HC are very rare. Normally a head coach chooses his staff. And normally that HC chooses guys he knows and trusts to do a good job.

It's only a "bad" thing if it doesn't work out.
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Soooo we should be okay with O'Brien showing signs of the same behavior Kubiak did.
- Offensive-minded head coach who also calls the plays... Check.
- Head coach who's supposed to be a "QB Guru"... Check.
- Was a coordinator, with no NFL HC-ing experience, on a Super Bowl winner... Check.
- Some flavor of "It's on me" at pressers... Check.
- Hiring his buds instead of doing a thorough search for better candidates... Check.

Same behaviour as the last guy but we should expect a different result...??

What's the word for that again...??


Like I said, I will hold off on "getting excited" until I see what he does with the roster. Changes need to be made for sure. But it doesn't need the complete purge that was needed after the 2005 season.

And more than that, I want to see who he picks as his defensive coordinator. Lots of good names out there that you guys have already listed. But if it ends up being another of his buds.....
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I get heartburn just thinking about everything below.
Hopefully if the guy does turn out to be Gary 2.0
(or Dom 3.0) we don't wait 6 years to replace him.

I don't want to be retired by the time we win anything
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Soooo we should be okay with O'Brien showing signs of the same behavior Kubiak did.
- Offensive-minded head coach who also calls the plays... Check.
- Head coach who's supposed to be a "QB Guru"... Check.
- Was a coordinator, with no NFL HC-ing experience, on a Super Bowl winner... Check.
- Some flavor of "It's on me" at pressers... Check.
- Hiring his buds instead of doing a thorough search for better candidates... Check.

Same behaviour as the last guy but we should expect a different result...??

What's the word for that again...??


Like I said, I will hold off on "getting excited" until I see what he does with the roster. Changes need to be made for sure. But it doesn't need the complete purge that was needed after the 2005 season.

And more than that, I want to see who he picks as his defensive coordinator. Lots of good names out there that you guys have already listed. But if it ends up being another of his buds.....
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yeah he has a pretty dirty mouth, he cusses a lot in my vision.
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