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Old 01-03-2014   #41
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FWIW, I heard two different people on the radio yesterday (McClain and Zierlein, IIRC) say that O'Brien primarily ran/runs ZBS.
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Maybe so but the Belichick Patriots model is the Power run game or smash mouth football.

the patriots way is not to blindly run anything either week or week out nor year -in year-out. it is to adapt the personnel at hand and the team that they are playing in a given week or in season view find things that the league has not caught up with.
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the patriots way is not to blindly run anything either week or week out nor year -in year-out. it is to adapt the personnel at hand and the team that they are playing in a given week or in season view find things that the league has not caught up with.
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M biggest problem is we don't have a "Tom Brady" on the roster
to make him look good like he did with the Pats

Man, I HATE this hire!
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M biggest problem is we don't have a "Tom Brady" on the roster
to make him look good like he did with the Pats

Man, I HATE this hire!
Umm ... he probably was hired just as much for his work at PSU as his time with the Pats .
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M biggest problem is we don't have a "Tom Brady" on the roster to make him look good like he did with the Pats

Man, I HATE this hire!
Which Head Coach hire would have brought Tom Brady to the Texans?
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I hope not! What exactly did he accomplish at PSU?

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Not my point. My point was that the guy isn't really accomplished
at all.

A KC-Reid type of hire would have been more like offering the
Texans job to Smith or Wisenhunt. An actual NFL coach with
actual Superbowl experience.

Not hiring some guy out of the college ranks with 2 years of
experience and no conference titles.

If you were going to hire a college coach, it should have been
someone innovative (like Chip Kelly, etc.. Sumlin, Briles, Mahlzan)

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I hope not! What exactly did he accomplish at PSU?
I can see this will be like playing catch with Stevie Wonder .
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Not my point. My point was that the guy isn't really accomplished
at all.

A KC-Reid type of hire would have been more like offering the
Texans job to Smith or Wisenhunt. An actual NFL coach with
actual Superbowl experience.

Not hiring some guy out of the college ranks with 2 years of
experience and no conference titles.

If you were going to hire a college coach, it should have been
someone innovative (like Chip Kelly, etc.. Sumlin, Briles, Mahlzan)
I can`t really comment too much on O`Brien because I don`t follow college football - but I think the team wanted to go young and fresh to get a coach that can form a team that can win in this "new" NFL - a passing league, fast game, major limitations to defense, mobile QB... Lovie Smith is a great coach, but one of the "old days". I am sure he will do great things in Tampa and maybe he would`ve been the better choice, but he won`t modernize the team and the system.

Wisenhunt had a great season and really bad ones. In his great season he had a great QB. I think a lot more people would`ve hated that signing than people hate the O`Brien signing.

And about the innovative college QBs - that can pretty fast turn into a gimmicky strategy that other teams figure out and render useless pretty fast. I don`t think McNair was ready to go all that way.

Basically we have a hard nosed coach that both excelled in a great and in a horrible situation. A guy that has a history of being a great QB developer, that loves the game and that doesn`t take bull**** from anyone. It remains to be seen if he can be a great HC in the NFL, but I totally understand the direction McNair is going here. And most analysts seem to think, we got the prize of available coaches...
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M biggest problem is we don't have a "Tom Brady" on the roster
to make him look good like he did with the Pats

Man, I HATE this hire!
I feel sorry for you. I usually wait to spend my life-force hating someone/something until I can establish an valid opinion, which NONE of us here can do since he hasn't coached a single down for us yet.
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I'd be ok trading a 4th for Mallet, maybe even a 3rd if he thinks that highly of him. We could then go Clowney or Barr in the 1st and OT in the 2nd.
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Seriously doubt NE would trade Mallett unless they were getting more than what they used on him. Wouldn't make sense.
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Seriously doubt NE would trade Mallett unless they were getting more than what they used on him. Wouldn't make sense.
Unless he is no good, but then we wouldn't want him.
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McGloin is somewhere between 6'-6'1.
Did you watch that video in which he talked about QBking?

At any rate, he may just draft his own guard from Penn St.; the guy only has a master in Mathematics.
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I miss kubes ..................


I don't think this is going to work out IMO I don't think any former NE coach has had success when they left ............NE LOL

I hope im wrong but I forsee like wut 4 years of medoricty 2 come
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