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Old 01-03-2014   #81
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So has Boyd become a complete dud now? If the Texans were to take a non-QB with the #1 overall, then this guy later in the draft, would we have sufficiently "addressed" our QB situation?
No, not at all. I think he lost a bit of value this year, but not nearly enough to consider him a dud.

I think he'll be a second rounder, third at the latest. I would like for us to target him if we end up not going with a QB at 1-1.

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I don't expect Boyd to get drafted until end of round 3 or round 4 unless he beasts out in the Orange Bowl which I doubt. He's probably gonna get his A handed to him.
I wouldn't bet on that, you're likely to lose again. Boyd is going to light Ohio State up. OSU's defense sucks and their best corner is hurt.
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Boyd looking damn good tonight so far before the safety.
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Boyd looking damn good tonight so far before the safety.
Hard to blame the safety on him too. Two guys on him and he had to unload the ball.

That flip pass was not well executed. He needs to be careful there. He made up for it in that past drive to make it 21-9.

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Only because don't want to look nor start another thread, anybody I argued with about Hopkins versus Watkins based mostly on pure production in 2012, I was plenty wrong.
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Only because don't want to look nor start another thread, anybody I argued with about Hopkins versus Watkins based mostly on pure production in 2012, I was plenty wrong.
I guess I missed it. I'm assuming you said something along the lines of Hopkins' production was due in large part to them doubling Sammy Watkins? Or countered that point?
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I guess I missed it. I'm assuming you said something along the lines of Hopkins' production was due in large part to them doubling Sammy Watkins? Or countered that point?
Worse if anything...I actually downgraded Watkins because his suspension and injury last year to being overrated and Hopkins to being underrated. Hopkins had silly numbers last year, and Watkins were overall meh...I ignored the fact that while Hopkins will probably be a nice pro WR, Watkins can do spit that Hopkins can't even dream about.
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Only because don't want to look nor start another thread, anybody I argued with about Hopkins versus Watkins based mostly on pure production in 2012, I was plenty wrong.
Glad you have had a chance to watch some Watkins.

Nice throw by Boyd there to Watkins. Can't get enough of Watkins.
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Wow, horrible pick!
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Interception bowl?
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Watkins was extremely raw as a freshman and sophomore. He excelled mostly on just plain speed. This year he has really taken it to the next level as a receiver.
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Watkins was extremely raw as a freshman and sophomore. He excelled mostly on just plain speed. This year he has really taken it to the next level as a receiver.
Yeah, he is a great player. I would love him on the Texans.

AT, that was you and I who originally got into the argument about Watkins BTW.
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As I stated before, I would take b4 a lot of qbs not named bridgewater. His mechanics get slopy at times.
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he looks he'll deal with weight/conditioning problems year after year.
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he looks he'll deal with weight/conditioning problems year after year.
He's pretty athletic. Has a very McNair-like build.
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I kinda like Boyd.

Of course, Watkins is freaking. in. sane. And that could make Boyd look better than he is.

But I liked Boyd last year when I was looking at some of Hopkins' tape. I like that he puts the ball in places for his receivers to make plays. Like I said though, that's easy with someone like Watkins.
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I believe he has a legitimate shot to be a starting QB in the NFL someday. He is a bigger version of Russell Wilson, who was graded behind Foles, Cousins, Tannehill, RG3, Luck & Weeden. Incidentally, Foles wound up in Philadelphia in DeMeco Ryans trade. Texans got a 4th for Ryans (Ben Jones) & they flipped 3rd's, Houston with #76 took Brandon Brooks, while Philly used Texan slot #88 to select Foles.
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I believe he has a legitimate shot to be a starting QB in the NFL someday. He is a bigger version of Russell Wilson, who was graded behind Foles, Cousins, Tannehill, RG3, Luck & Weeden. Incidentally, Foles wound up in Philadelphia in DeMeco Ryans trade. Texans got a 4th for Ryans (Ben Jones) & they flipped 3rd's, Houston with #76 took Brandon Brooks, while Philly used Texan slot #88 to select Foles.

I think if boyd had come out last yr,he would've been drafted about where he will be drafted this yr, top 2nd -3rd rd. There is a lot to like about boyd from a talent point. He's sturdy,has a great arm with a compact delivery,and he's very mobile. I don't like the offense he plays in,but I don't like a lot of college offenses. Boyd gets in trouble with footwork. He can throw from various platform and it looks like he has 10" hands. When he's mechanically sound,he can make every throw accurate. When he's not,he'll skip a slant route like mcnabb or cutler. He's gotten better every yr. He'll probably measure at 6'1 220lbs just eyeballing him. If the texans were to take some other than Bridgewater at #1, I would like boyd wth the 33rd pick.
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I believe he has a legitimate shot to be a starting QB in the NFL someday. He is a bigger version of Russell Wilson, who was graded behind Foles, Cousins, Tannehill, RG3, Luck & Weeden. Incidentally, Foles wound up in Philadelphia in DeMeco Ryans trade. Texans got a 4th for Ryans (Ben Jones) & they flipped 3rd's, Houston with #76 took Brandon Brooks, while Philly used Texan slot #88 to select Foles.
yeah but will didn't see is draft stock fall dramatically in his last year.
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yeah but will didn't see is draft stock fall dramatically in his last year.
check out beginning of this thread, beginning of October, little movement, if anything he played himself into shape as season went along. I still like him.
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I think if boyd had come out last yr,he would've been drafted about where he will be drafted this yr, top 2nd -3rd rd. There is a lot to like about boyd from a talent point. He's sturdy,has a great arm with a compact delivery,and he's very mobile. I don't like the offense he plays in,but I don't like a lot of college offenses. Boyd gets in trouble with footwork. He can throw from various platform and it looks like he has 10" hands. When he's mechanically sound,he can make every throw accurate. When he's not,he'll skip a slant route like mcnabb or cutler. He's gotten better every yr. He'll probably measure at 6'1 220lbs just eyeballing him. If the texans were to take some other than Bridgewater at #1, I would like boyd wth the 33rd pick.
It's all up to B'OB now. If Boyd is his fallback position guy then I'm good with it. Was trying to compare his last game performance for Clemson to Russell Wilson for Wisconsin against Oregon but its really not apples to apples. 300 yards, 19/25 2 TD & 1 pick. Russell only rushed 6 times for 18 yards but then he had Monte Ball. QBR 92.3

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Boyd Orange outing had 20 rushing attempts for 137 yards & a score, mostly on designed plays but often when flushed & nowhere to throw the ball. 31-40 378 yards 5 TD's 2 INT's & 2 sacks. QBR 85.1

Bottom line both where record setting, athletic QB's for their respective schools. Wilson is just very efficient, smart & despite his lack of size the better athlete. I like your eyeball measurement for Boyd, think that is about right, he does need some weight on his bones because he receives & dishes out more contact, important for his durability. Also feel O'Brian would be able to harness his talent & make him more cerebral, work through his progressions.
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