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Old 01-03-2014   #321
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Number one over all is a tall task, my friend .
I can only wish you could have watched him at recess in the third grade. You'd have a much higher opinion, I'm sure.
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I seriously see a scenario where O'Brien trades for Ryan Mallet and they trade the 1st round pick for more picks..

Mallet knows the system and is young with a strong arm...
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just curious, TB, Bortles and Hundley all should be top 16 picks and probably Carr also; so why should a team in top 10-15 trade up for a QB? I am really hoping for a trade down but only thing I see is for "sizzle". Hopefully, a team will greatly prefer Bridge over the others enough to say "Let's make a deal".
If we see 5 or 6 first round QBs in a tight grouping as far as risks and another team sees one as the franchise type QB, then a trade is possible. If another sees a different QB as a franchise QB, than another trade is possible. Each time we move down and pick up draft picks for this year or next. We still get a QB in that tight group AND the extra picks.

If we see a Franchise QB or 2 who is superior to the group, then we don't trade down. It's as simple as that. But we make sure everyone wanting to trade up deals with us first and not St Louis exclusively. They advertised their willingness to trade down and we responded as we should.
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Bridgewater, on the other hand, doesn't posess the mental nor the phisical ability to be a number one overall.
He's a cross between many QBs drafted in the first round but outside #3 overall, not a bona-fide can't miss prospect.
IMO, if a QB grades out as the 3rd best player in the class, & the #1 team needs a QB, it's foolish not to take the QB with the #1 overall.
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just curious, TB, Bortles and Hundley all should be top 16 picks and probably Carr also; so why should a team in top 10-15 trade up for a QB? I am really hoping for a trade down but only thing I see is for "sizzle". Hopefully, a team will greatly prefer Bridge over the others enough to say "Let's make a deal".
I think this thread proves some people fall in love with one player & that's pretty much it. No one else is good enough. They can't possibly see who another player would actually develop into as good as, or better player.




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1) trade the 1st pick for more picks
2) draft manziel
3) hire Tebow as veteran QB to groom our brand new guy

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2. Teddy Bridgewater*, QB, Louisville (6-3, 220): In an era in which college QBs' numbers are often inflated by short passes and simplistic schemes, Bridgewater's sparkling production is due to Pro Bowl-caliber accuracy. His success (71 percent completions, 31 touchdowns, four interceptions) comes out of a pro-style offense that requires him to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage and complete NFL throws. Those traits make Bridgewater an ideal fit in new Houston Texans head coach Bill O'Brien's offense, making him the favorite to be the No. 1 overall pick of the 2014 draft.

COMPARES TO: Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks - NFL analysts often say that if Russell Wilson was 3-4 inches taller, he would have been a first round pick. Well, that might hold true with Bridgewater, who is a similar prospect as Wilson (smart, athletic, mature, accurate) except he is taller with more prototypical height for the NFL.

13. Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State (6-3, 215): Carr's staggering production (68.2 completion percentage, 50 TDs, 8 INTs) was inflated by head coach Tim DeRuyter's QB-friendly spread attack and talented receiving corps, but there is no denying his talent. His release and velocity are as impressive as any college quarterback in the country. Unfortunately, Carr's career ended with a thud in a disappointing performance against Southern Cal in the Las Vegas Bowl. Hit early by an athletic USC front, Carr developed happy feet and misfired often in the 45-20 beatdown. The loss left Carr 0-2 in bowl games and may add fuel to the speculation that he'll struggle with pressure in the NFL, just as his older brother David did after leaving Fresno State as the No. 1 overall pick in 2002 and playing behind a poor offensive line for the expansion Houston Texans. Derek Carr needs to restore his slipping stock with an impressive performance at the Senior Bowl.

17. Johnny Manziel*, QB, Texas A&M (5-11, 210): Manziel's vision, elusiveness and accuracy on the move make him a mesmerizing prospect who will almost surely be drafted earlier than I rank him. While dynamic throughout his career -- including in the Aggies' thrilling comeback over Duke in the Chick-fil-A Bowl -- red flags were raised in mediocre performances against LSU and Missouri to end the regular season. Bottled in the pocket by both, Manziel couldn't throw his receivers open and he struggled. The NFL rule books have never been more accommodating to dual-threat passers, but consistent accuracy from the pocket remains the most critical element to quarterback play at the next level.

22. Blake Bortles*, QB, Central Florida (6-3, 230): A prototypically built pocket passer with good awareness, athleticism and arm strength, Bortles looks the part of an NFL starting quarterback. He is methodical in his setup and delivery of the ball and is a bit inconsistent with his accuracy, but the mettle he showed in guiding UCF to several comeback victories in 2013 has scouts buzzing. Bortles isn't as polished as Bridgewater, Carr or Manziel, but should he enter the 2014 draft a top-10 selection is not out of the question.
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I seriously see a scenario where O'Brien trades for Ryan Mallet and they trade the 1st round pick for more picks..

Mallet knows the system and is young with a strong arm...
I wouldn't mind that at all.
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Bill O'Brien as Patriots OC, coaching up a rookie Ryan Mallett. pic.twitter.com/oTp0VKFb7g






Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock 19h

@themightygwinn one of the things I've been questioning. May want to continue molding him for when Brady hangs it up. But when is that?


Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock 19h

@themightygwinn haven't studied them yet. Just thinking out loud on how much sense it makes to bring in Mallett


Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock 19h

Mallett has a big arm, but was inconsistent at Arkansas. He'll know if Mallett has progressed as a man & a passer. I'd still draft a QB too


Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock 19h

O'Brien coached mobile QBs in college at Ga Tech, Maryland, etc, but he recruited to top QBs at Penn State that are pocket passers.


Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock 19h

Mallett had 3 years learning from Brady & understanding what Bill Belichick understands. O'Brien part of the staff to draft Mallett in NE


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The more I think about it, the more sense it makes for Bill O'Brien to go after Ryan Mallett. Part of staff to draft him, 6'6 pocket passer
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I don't mind them trading for Mallett IF they think he is the future. They shouldn't give away a draft pick for a one year placeholder and then draft a QB also. Also, Mallett is in the last year of his contract. If the Texans spend a 1st or 2nd on a QB, why would Mallett sign a longer deal with the Texans?
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I'd reckon Belicheck would ask for more than we'd be willing to give.

He's probably matured under Bill, but he sure used to be a dick. Watched several Arkansas games back then and when he wasn't throwing tantrums he was whining
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I'd reckon Belicheck would ask for more than we'd be willing to give.

He's probably matured under Bill, but he sure used to be a dick. Watched several Arkansas games back then and when he wasn't throwing tantrums he was whining
He was a kid.
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I'd reckon Belicheck would ask for more than we'd be willing to give.
Agree.

I vote for the QB named "extra draft selections".
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Default Ryan Mallett- I know, I know...

I'm sure most of you have seen his name bandied about for obvious reasons etc. I was just curious what the draftniks on the forum thought of him. Is he a better option than the guys coming out this year assuming the compensation isn't ridiculous?
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I'm sure most of you have seen his name bandied about for obvious reasons etc. I was just curious what the draftniks on the forum thought of him. Is he a better option than the guys coming out this year assuming the compensation isn't ridiculous?
IMO he's more physically talented than any QB in this draft. Decision making and immaturity was his downfall though.
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IMO he's more physically talented than any QB in this draft. Decision making and immaturity was his downfall though.
and accuracy. relied to much on his gun arm to pull of throws. not sure if thats improved in his time in the NFL because i haven't seen any of his preseason games
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Was BOB there when Mallet was drafted?

Compensation would possibly be in the Schaub range, 2 3rds???
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Was BOB there when Mallet was drafted?

Compensation would possibly be in the Schaub range, 2 3rds???
same year BO'B came mallet got drafted i think.
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same year BO'B came mallet got drafted i think.
It was O'Brien's last year.
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