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Jeff Tedford to be his OC, and Leslie Frazier to be his DC
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This is probably just a Rooney rule smokescreen. They're really going to hire Kubiak.
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And the Tampa 2 defense is returning to its rightful home. I like his staff decisions though.
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And the Tampa 2 defense is returning to its rightful home. I like his staff decisions though.
Tedford can coach and produce some solid QBs in college (Dilfer, Carr, Rodgers) so as an OC should be interesting what he does for Glennon. I like Frazier as a DC, his Vikings D's have been solid for a few years now.

What about Monte Kiffin? Too old to run the Tampa 2 for the Bucs again? How about Jon Gruden as an Assistant HC? *sarcasm*
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This is probably just a Rooney rule smokescreen. They're really going to hire Kubiak.
I kind of thought that's what the Texans were doing when they interviewed him.
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I kind of thought that's what the Texans were doing when they interviewed him.
yeah, interviewing a coach who

1) last year as a head coach was 10-6
2) taken a team to the superbowl in his 9 year head coaching stint
3) Was DC of the Rams when they won the superbowl

smells of just talking to him because he is a minority.

I think (don't know for sure) that TK was being sarcastic.
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yeah, interviewing a coach who

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3) Was DC of the Rams when they won the superbowl

smells of just talking to him because he is a minority.

I think (don't know for sure) that TK was being sarcastic.
I can't answer for TK, but I was serious. I didn't want Smith and I slightly raised my eyebrows when Kubiak practically bumped into Lovie while making his way to the car.

There's a lot about Lovie Smith I don't know about. I did watch him coach when his games were in TV, I wasn't impressed.
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This is probably just a Rooney rule smokescreen. They're really going to hire Kubiak.
Hope the other teams all interviewed him already. Lovie off the market, Sumlin & Shaw & Dungy not interviewing - hey Romeo Crennel, do you have a few minutes to talk to us?
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Wish it were us. I always feel that you if you're in the market for a coach, you get one that will maximize your best player. The best player for the Texans is JJ Watt. Lovie would've been able to field a front seven that could make JJ's job a whole lot easier, and if Watt's job were to become even easier than it is now, opposing quarterbacks would consider talking to a mortician before games.

Conversely for Tampa Bay, their best player is Darelle Revis, although you can make a strong case for Vincent Jackson or Doug Martin, I think if you had the ability to grab one player from each team in the NFL, you take Revis from the Bucs.
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I always feel that you if you're in the market for a coach, you get one that will maximize your best player. The best player for the Texans is JJ Watt. Lovie would've been able to field a front seven that could make JJ's job a whole lot easier, and if Watt's job were to become even easier than it is now, opposing quarterbacks would consider talking to a mortician before games.
i was leaning towards lovie smith for this exact reason. we have the best defensive player in football, and i think lovie would've been the head coach most likely to make the most of watt. i cant fault the texans' brass too much though, it IS a passing league. even with the best defender in the game we only managed 2 wins.
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i was leaning towards lovie smith for this exact reason. we have the best defensive player in football, and i think lovie would've been the head coach most likely to make the most of watt. i cant fault the texans' brass too much though, it IS a passing league. even with the best defender in the game we only managed 2 wins.
I liked that Lovie was considered because he is one of the few HCs who get fired with a winning record. Even more rare with a "recent" Conference Championship. He's probably a "better" Andy Reid on the defensive side of the ball.









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This is probably just a Rooney rule smokescreen. They're really going to hire Kubiak.
Huh? I don't get this.

Lovie is the real deal. He suffered the worst drafting GM for nearly the entirety of his time in Chicago. The man is a head coach. Delegates. Strong minded on his defense. And unflappable. Players played for Lovie.

Watch what he does in Tampa... with his Tampa. I'm a fan of the man.
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Wish it were us. I always feel that you if you're in the market for a coach, you get one that will maximize your best player. The best player for the Texans is JJ Watt. Lovie would've been able to field a front seven that could make JJ's job a whole lot easier, and if Watt's job were to become even easier than it is now, opposing quarterbacks would consider talking to a mortician before games.

Conversely for Tampa Bay, their best player is Darelle Revis, although you can make a strong case for Vincent Jackson or Doug Martin, I think if you had the ability to grab one player from each team in the NFL, you take Revis from the Bucs.
How does Lovie to TB help Revis? He's a man corner that was stuck playing zone this year by Schiano and struggled. Now he's a man corner that will be stuck playing Cover 2. How does that maximize his ability?

I could see this move helping their recent 1st round pick Gerald McCoy and their stud WLB Lavante David, but not Revis.
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How does Lovie to TB help Revis? He's a man corner that was stuck playing zone this year by Schiano and struggled. Now he's a man corner that will be stuck playing Cover 2. How does that maximize his ability?
Remember when people questioned how our personnel would fit Wade's 3-4? It fit just fine because we understood that while we throw out the name of a defense, that does not imply that you'll see that formation for 100% of the game, or even a majority of the game.

The same is said with the cover 2. The principle idea behind the Tampa 2 is two bodies covering the outside deep and one body covering the middle deep. That doesn't mean it HAS to be two safties and a middle linebacker. It could be a combination of anything. I'd imagine you'll see Revis playing a lot of looks in the safety position regardless of the fact that he's a cornerback by name. It's how Lovie used Charles Tillman when he knew it was obvious passing downs or when facing a big time WR like Calvin Johnson.

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I could see this move helping their recent 1st round pick Gerald McCoy and their stud WLB Lavante David, but not Revis.
McCoy was the #1 rated NT by PFF in 2013. David, the #2 rated 4-3 OLB. Revis was the #1 rated CB. Stacked!

But I agree, think Revis is gone.
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McCoy was the #1 rated NT by PFF in 2013. David, the #2 rated 4-3 OLB. Revis was the #1 rated CB. Stacked!

But I agree, think Revis is gone.
I don't follow PFF so not sure on the rankings. Everything I heard this year pointed to Revis struggling this year.
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i was leaning towards lovie smith for this exact reason. we have the best defensive player in football, and i think lovie would've been the head coach most likely to make the most of watt. i cant fault the texans' brass too much though, it IS a passing league. even with the best defender in the game we only managed 2 wins.
I like the O'Brien hire, and I'm excited by it, but I would have been totally ok if it had ended up being Lovie also.

I think there's some folks on this board who looked at Lovie's persona, and saw Kubiak. After that, anything related to actually coaching an NFL football team kind of ceased to matter.
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