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Old 01-01-2014   #701
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Happy New Year to everyone!

Not at all surprised that BOB is the guy, but very excited. I was told by an insider about two weeks ago that BOB was the guy as long as the parameters fell into place. But very, very, pleased it came to fruition. For the first time, I'm actually excited by who we have at HC. I liked the Kubes hire at the time admittedly, but it was more around the whole local boy comes home thing.

I like the guy's demeanor. He seems to have a little "chin" in him as far as exuding confidence, toughness, and a desire to not just hang on and try to be there at the end, but to blow people out and step on their throats when they are down.

I think he will bring an aggressiveness to the offense heretofore unseen. As far as the D, I'm very curious what he does there. I wonder if Wade stays on or he brings in a new guy. Personally, I prefer a 4/3, but I'm ok with Wade staying on I suppose. Interesting days and weeks ahead!
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Well-said.

I see some Cowher in him. That's a good thing...as long as he doesn't have Cowher's stubborn streak (i.e. sticking with Kordell Stewart as starting QB for far too long).
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First of all, Happy New Year's to everyone on TexansTalk. I hope 2014 is full of opportunities, excitement, and full of successes for you and your families.

As for O'Brien I'm not a fan of Patriots coordinators who had the opportunity to work with Tom Brady but I'll take this as a move that was carefully thought over and move on.

I like that he has no problem getting emotional and saying what's on his mind. Also having worked with Brady he probably has a solid understanding of what a good Quarterback is so I'm excited about that.

I just hope we have a solid draft and are able to bounce back and not only make it to the playoffs but win our division and actually move beyond to the AFC title game...absolutely no reason why we can't in 2014.
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So McNair has to pay Kubiak's final contract year. He had to pay $6.5M to Penn St. as a buyout, right? And he has to pay B'OB whatever his contract ends up being. Anyone have any idea how much the Texans are spending on coaching for 2014?
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So McNair has to pay Kubiak's final contract year. He had to pay $6.5M to Penn St. as a buyout, right? And he has to pay B'OB whatever his contract ends up being. Anyone have any idea how much the Texans are spending on coaching for 2014?
Well it is around $18 mil for HC alone.

This should forever lay to rest the McNair is cheap BS.
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This should forever lay to rest the McNair is cheap BS.
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I know exactly what to make of it..

They're bashing a guy because he left their nest/team. If we didn't fire Kubiak this season and another football program pulled him away and hired him would people around here really be upset about it? Nope, they wouldn't.

The fact that they're all pissed off and are crying leads me to believe we made the right decision since they're so upset about him leaving.
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This should forever lay to rest the McNair is cheap BS.
You and I both know that is not what is going to happen with a select few (or one) posters on this board.
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Well it is around $18 mil for HC alone.

This should forever lay to rest the McNair is cheap BS.
Correct. I have long said that Bob McNair is not cheap. He can be criticized for a lot of decisions he's made, but, he's always been generous with the $$$$.

Regarding how much this is costing him, let's not forget that he likely has to buy out all of the fired assistants and spend even MORE money on whatever assistants O'Brien wants.

This move is not a cheap one.
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Did you follow what O'Brien did at Penn State at all? Do you believe they had the talent to win the Big 10? I was impressed by how he kept the team's head up and never let them feel sorry for themselves after the sanctions went down. I was impressed that O'Brien stayed at Penn State after the sanctions were imposed.

I get the skepticism of McNair. He's been in the league 12 years, but he still seems like a novice. Only winning big and winning consistently can change that. I wanted a big name here that could change the culture of this organization. O'Brien is not a "big name". But, maybe he can change things down on Kirby.
Yep. When O'Brien's name first surfaced, I was thinking: Who?

I didn't see what the big draw was. After thinking it over, and reading more about the guy, I'm ok with this hire. Why? Because not only do we need a coaching change, we need a CULTURE change. The entire way of thinking with this franchise needs to go. Period.

This franchise has been infected with a middle-of-the-road, complacent culture. Winning is not the most important thing with the Texans. "Trying" and working hard are more important. If a win comes as a result of that, cool. But, if it doesn't, meh. We'll get them next time! It's maddening.

One of the most frustrating things for me about the Kubiak era was how we were never prepared for major games. Prime time games, games after the bye, games where something significant was on the line (like home field advantage in the AFC)...we tanked. One essence of sports - of life, really - is the ability to step up and perform when needed. Winners can; losers cant.

One thing I've always respected about Belichek was his foot-on-your-throat mentality about winning. Dude would mow down an old lady crossing the street if he thought doing so would win him a football game.
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Definitely. Capers seemed like a safe pick and Gary seemed like a reach to me. O'Brien might crash and burn spectacularly (I don't see it happening for the record) but if he does then at least Bob will be "wrong in the right direction" for a change.

I really like the emphasis he seems to place on intelligence. It's a quality I think our roster has been lacking over the years.
Firstly let me say I'm 100% on board and behind Bill O'Brien as our new Head Coach. Everything I've read and YouTube'd paints a man with drive, passion for the game and innovative ideas.

That leads me to ask about this: If "our roster has been lacking (intelligence) over the years" does that mean we don't have players smart enough to adapt to O'B's 'think on the run' offense? If that's the case, how many seasons/drafts does it take to get these scholars? That in and of itself doesn't ring well with me personally. I hope he can come in and make lemonade mucho pronto. (I hope this comes across in the spirit it's intended)

Hanging in the back of my mind as well is the "fiery, in your face", take no prisoners (my metaphor) attitude. It's been discussed on this board even regarding that MO not flying in the NFL. Schiano found that out post haste. Several folks here have mentioned the ass eating he gave Brady on the sideline and I guess that's cool. On occasion. I've read of him being a "bow hard hothead" on more than one occasion. Granted, some of those were probably monkey hurt PSU supporters who can't let go. My concern I suppose is how tempered is he with coming uncorked or does he fly off the handle because someone brings him coffee that's not the way he wants it.

Not bashing here but I think it's a legitimate question. Other opinions?
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Well it is around $18 mil for HC alone.

This should forever lay to rest the McNair is cheap BS.
I said in an earlier thread that I was glad BoB spent the $$$$$ to get a HC that was in demand rather than go the retread route.

My hats off to you BoB, regardless of how the O'brien hiring works out.

Hiring top notch AC's like Crennel will be the next litmus test. Hopefully BoB will spend the $$$$ to get the bet assistants possible. This has been a shortcoming of the Texans org in the past. I dont know whether that's on Gary or BoB.
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Well it is around $18 mil for HC alone.

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Dude spent some serious money to do this. Props to Mcnair and also props to Rick Smith who obviously had some say so in this. I can no longer call him cheap. I just hope that O'Brien causes them to be more active in trades and free agency when good opportunities come along.
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Firstly let me say I'm 100% on board and behind Bill O'Brien as our new Head Coach. Everything I've read and YouTube'd paints a man with drive, passion for the game and innovative ideas.

That leads me to ask about this: If "our roster has been lacking (intelligence) over the years" does that mean we don't have players smart enough to adapt to O'B's 'think on the run' offense? If that's the case, how many seasons/drafts does it take to get these scholars? That in and of itself doesn't ring well with me personally. I hope he can come in and make lemonade mucho pronto. (I hope this comes across in the spirit it's intended)

Hanging in the back of my mind as well is the "fiery, in your face", take no prisoners (my metaphor) attitude. It's been discussed on this board even regarding that MO not flying in the NFL. Schiano found that out post haste. Several folks here have mentioned the ass eating he gave Brady on the sideline and I guess that's cool. On occasion. I've read of him being a "bow hard hothead" on more than one occasion. Granted, some of those were probably monkey hurt PSU supporters who can't let go. My concern I suppose is how tempered is he with coming uncorked or does he fly off the handle because someone brings him coffee that's not the way he wants it.

Not bashing here but I think it's a legitimate question. Other opinions?
I think this organization has needed a little bit of that. I think that he is a serious guy with serious expectations. He is going to hold people accountable for meeting them and being professional.
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Has anybody heard when his introductory Texan press conference is?
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Firstly let me say I'm 100% on board and behind Bill O'Brien as our new Head Coach. Everything I've read and YouTube'd paints a man with drive, passion for the game and innovative ideas.

That leads me to ask about this: If "our roster has been lacking (intelligence) over the years" does that mean we don't have players smart enough to adapt to O'B's 'think on the run' offense? If that's the case, how many seasons/drafts does it take to get these scholars? That in and of itself doesn't ring well with me personally. I hope he can come in and make lemonade mucho pronto. (I hope this comes across in the spirit it's intended)

Hanging in the back of my mind as well is the "fiery, in your face", take no prisoners (my metaphor) attitude. It's been discussed on this board even regarding that MO not flying in the NFL. Schiano found that out post haste. Several folks here have mentioned the ass eating he gave Brady on the sideline and I guess that's cool. On occasion. I've read of him being a "bow hard hothead" on more than one occasion. Granted, some of those were probably monkey hurt PSU supporters who can't let go. My concern I suppose is how tempered is he with coming uncorked or does he fly off the handle because someone brings him coffee that's not the way he wants it.

Not bashing here but I think it's a legitimate question. Other opinions?
Look, there's a middle ground between Gary Kubiak and a, say, Greg Schiano. You don't have to be a total weak-willed coach, but I don't think you have to be a total jerk, either.

Sometimes it's about simple - wait for it...- accountability. That's the word that's been tossed around here the last six months. The players and coaches under Kubiak got to do anything they wanted. Anything. That's not coaching.

I'm guessing the Buc's owners felt that the team under Raheem Morris lacked discipline, and they told Schiano to be tough. Sounds like he went overboard.

I don't believe in "players coaches." They don't work, in my opinion.

I'd rather take a chance with a tougher coach than one who wants to be friends with his players.

Bob McNair nailed it perfectly in his Kubiak-firing press conference: there's a difference between doing what's best for the players, and doing what's best for the overall organization. Kubiak did what was best for individual people - Matt Schaub, Joe Marciano - but did not care that doing so hurt the overall organization.
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Has anybody heard when his introductory Texan press conference is?
I read tomorrow will be the official introduction.
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Dude spent some serious money to do this. Props to Mcnair and also props to Rick Smith who obviously had some say so in this. I can no longer call him cheap. I just hope that O'Brien causes them to be more active in trades and free agency when good opportunities come along.
Also: props to the Texans for having the stones to fire a coach during the season.

It's time to put to rest the idea that firing a coach during the season does no good.
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Dude spent some serious money to do this. Props to Mcnair and also props to Rick Smith who obviously had some say so in this. I can no longer call him cheap. I just hope that O'Brien causes them to be more active in trades and free agency when good opportunities come along.
Agreed. First thing in my mind is to extend JJ Watt! Do that then I'll listen to drafting Clowney #1 overall
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Agreed. First thing in my mind is to extend JJ Watt! Do that then I'll listen to drafting Clowney #1 overall
I don't want another Mario Williams type of guy. Clowney has to many issues for me to want the Texas to waste a big pick like that on a guy with so many red flags.

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I don't want another Mario Williams type of guy. Clowney has to many issues for me to want the Texas to waste a big pick like that on a guy with so many red flags.



I want our franchise QB.

Agreed... Now wether at is Bridgewater, JFF, or Bortles I don't know. I personally like Bridgewater, but I'll trust O'Brien to pick the qb that best fits what he wants in a qb.


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