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Old 12-31-2013   #461
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I guess we have a different definition of UNDESPUTED. and I'm not crapping on the guy. I'm fine with drafting him if after the process he turns out to be worthy of The pick. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. There is a lot of time left to make this decision. And Clowney is a better prospect than Smith was. Mathews shouldn't even go top 10.
Ok sub smith out for lawrence taylor...regardless, no prospect we pick at # 1 overall in this draft projects to be in that super duper prospect range. We just need to make sure we dont miss with the pick...and imo, bridgewater is the closest to that.
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All of these arguments about him being the undisputed best QB in this class are premature. There are more evaluations to come and QB's especially are volatile. Right now, I think he's the best but the gap between him and the next 2 or 3 might not be as large as to say from 3 to 4 or 5.

Again though, there are more measurements and evaluations to come and many can rise and fall throughout this process. I have a feeling Teddy is going to still come out of this being the best or 2nd best QB in the draft, and I think if he comes out the best QB, he really should be the pick.
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Sadly he will not be playing our secondary. I'm sure he'd love to tear up some Brice McCain but he'll have to settle for doing it in practice (but hopefully not for long).
Do you think that all the QBs who play the Texans chip in a couple of bucks and send McCain a gift basket at the end of the season?
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If Manziel declares he's headed for the NFL & the national media starts talking about him being possibly the best QB prospect... would that be because they're all from Texas?
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LOL, Nice to meet you Captain Hindsight. I highly doubt you were banging the table for a busted up Keenan Allen last year that couldn't even work out at a combine. He was the biggest WR injury red flag coming out. The Chargers got themselves a damn steal with him.



LOL, what is your plan bro? To be the worst team in football for the next 3 years. You're something else man. That's awesome you're really doing your homework this far in advance, but the last thing I want is another head coach with a 6 year plan where we continue to lose in the worst division in football until then. Plus, I don't think a new HC will get that same liberty Kubes did and will likely be ousted by the time these potential, hopeful, future all stars possibly declare for the NFL.
You can either ask people around here in this college forum, or you can go back and check all the old threads.

How I worked the WR prospects last year.
It wasn't hindsight.
I began working on it even before the college season started.

Just because you don't follow college and high school football doesn't mean that the rest of us didn't.
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You also said Keenum was the best QB of his class, Luck included. Point is, no one here is an expert at predicting the future and can say there are no franchise QBs, etc in this draft.
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Say....

If we draft Bridgewater, do you think the Colts fans are going to be saying, "Damn..... we gotta face Bridgewater twice a year."
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Say....

If we draft Bridgewater, do you think the Colts fans are going to be saying, "Damn..... we gotta face Bridgewater twice a year."
They would if they see Manziel on the other side...
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Say....

If we draft Bridgewater, do you think the Colts fans are going to be saying, "Damn..... we gotta face Bridgewater twice a year."
We have the best defensive player in the league...i doubt they say "damn, we have to face JJ Watt twice a year..."....at the end of the day its about the team and if we can build 1 thats gonna give them hell every year, thats what we need to focus on...

If Bridgewater is a key cog in that, he's the right pick
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I took a peek at their board.


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Who the Texans pick could be a pretty big deal for the Colts to keep winning the South. So who do you think would be a bust ? I hope they take Bridgewater.
ricker182, on 29 Dec 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:
As long as they don't trade a later pick for Cousins idc. Cousins is GOAT!

WastedColt, on 29 Dec 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:
I hope they take Manziel or Bridgewater. I honestly see them both as career backups. They could also take Clowney, that kind of failing work ethic has bust written all over it.

I really just hope that the Texans can't get an RG3 type of deal where some * gives them several years of high draft picks for a mediocre player
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You also said Keenum was the best QB of his class, Luck included. Point is, no one here is an expert at predicting the future and can say there are no franchise QBs, etc in this draft.
I would be a dumbass to say such a thing.

What I did say is that if you think a guy can be a starting QB of your team than you need to consider him.

All the while, you also need to consider the shortcoming of a prospect.

Why is that that I wanted the Texans to take both Wilson and Keenum?
Neither garner good-great praises.
You had Schaub and Yates.
You want to plan ahead and find out if one of these under rated players can add to your plan going forward.

You need to have a long term, continuous goal for your team.

Fact: Keenum leapfrogged Yates in the pecking order.
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As long as they don't trade a later pick for Cousins idc. Cousins is GOAT!

Yea, because I want the Texans to make their decision based on the opinions of these people. Someone on their board also compared Bridgewater to Geno Smith. You are taking reaching to a whole new stratosphere lol.
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We could have Keenan Allen as the second WR plus extras to trade back up or trade away for future picks.
Could have another TE like Fauria who only caught seven TD passes and another LB to groom like Zavier Gooden.
This kind of argument is never productive, and basically relies purely on hindsight.
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Well, you thought he was worth a 1st round pick and in your own words, "Another inch or inch and a half and some ten-fifteen more pounds of muscle, and I would take him over Luck and RGIII any day."

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...&postcount=369

Fact is the draft is a crapshoot and much of these prospect's success will rely heavily on the coaching they receive at the NFL level. Coach BOB, if as good as the Texans brass believes he is, can make a franchise QB out of Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel or whatever prospect they decide to hitch their wagon to.
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Yea, because I want the Texans to make their decision based on the opinions of these people
Not exactly.

But there was a totally different atmosphere here when they had the #1 pick. None of us was "hoping" they would draft Luck. Most of us were "upset" because it was generally accepted there was a high probability he would be a franchise QB.

Not so much with Bridgewater.

Yeah, some of us are smitten with Manziel & because of that may be blind to his shortcomings & weaknesses.

At the same time, I think the #1 overall have some people drunk on "the best" QB prospect in the draft. & because of our need are overvaluing Bridgewater.

He should not be valued any more than Manziel. If Manziel isn't worth the #1 pick, Bridgewater isn't. At the very least, Bridgewater can't warrant a #1 overall grade & Manziel not warrant a top 10 pick.
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This kind of argument is never productive, and basically relies purely on hindsight.
Obviously, you and I are entitled to our own opinions.
I just stated mine and you, yours.
We are not expecting to accomplish anything here, are we?
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Well, you thought he was worth a 1st round pick and in your own words, "Another inch or inch and a half and some ten-fifteen more pounds of muscle, and I would take him over Luck and RGIII any day."

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...&postcount=369

Fact is the draft is a crapshoot and much of these prospect's success will rely heavily on the coaching they receive at the NFL level. Coach BOB, if as good as the Texans brass believes he is, can make a franchise QB out of Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel or whatever prospect they decide to hitch their wagon to.
But he wasn't an inch and a half taller nor does he has fifteen more pounds of good muscle . I would take a good back up QB with a third round pick
easily. The same argument goes, because it is the most important position on the team.
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Not exactly.

But there was a totally different atmosphere here when they had the #1 pick. None of us was "hoping" they would draft Luck. Most of us were "upset" because it was generally accepted there was a high probability he would be a franchise QB.

Not so much with Bridgewater.

Yeah, some of us are smitten with Manziel & because of that may be blind to his shortcomings & weaknesses.

At the same time, I think the #1 overall have some people drunk on "the best" QB prospect in the draft. & because of our need are overvaluing Bridgewater.

He should not be valued any more than Manziel. If Manziel isn't worth the #1 pick, Bridgewater isn't. At the very least, Bridgewater can't warrant a #1 overall grade & Manziel not warrant a top 10 pick.



Because prospects of Andrew Luck's caliber come along how often? Pretty sure most people were saying best prospect since John Elway. You really wanna suck that long before we gamble on a QB or just keep digging through the trash heap hoping to find that rare diamond a la the Cleveland Browns.
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But he wasn't an inch and a half taller nor does he has fifteen more pounds of good muscle . I would take a good back up QB with a third round pick
easily. The same argument goes, because it is the most important position on the team.


The difference between Luck and Keenum's ability to play QB in the NFL isn't an inch and a half in height and 15 pounds.
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