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Old 01-01-2014   #121
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I personally like the idea of taking OT Jake Matthews tackle from Texas A&M & solidifying the offensive line which was another big problem this year. He can begin life as the RT & when Duane Brown gets older or begins to break down can eventually take over that slot & they would switch at that point.

This would enable us to take a QB in the second round basically best available but he will have a solid line in front of him that will aid in the running & passing game as opposed to picking a QB in the first round & then having no run game on the right side nor protection either.

I would be fine with the QBs looking to go in the second round such as A.J. McCarron or someone who may slip out of the first round. This type of philosophy sets up better in all facets as our running backs & QB are better & we may even consider trading a 3rd rounder to Washington for Kirk Cousins. We have tons of options but I feel the safer pick & the best for any team is to always develop the offensive & defensive lines. Jadavian Clowney is great but too many off the field issues & a lack of motor on the field makes him feel less JJ Watt more Mario Williams.

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No matter what Jake Matthews or any guy who will play RT for us is not worth a first round pick at all much less the first overall. Find a guy to compete with Newton and the rest in the 2nd or 3rd at earliest.
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No matter what Jake Matthews or any guy who will play RT for us is not worth a first round pick at all much less the first overall. Find a guy to compete with Newton and the rest in the 2nd or 3rd at earliest.
So .... who do you take at 1:1..... assuming you don't believe in the QB's available (which I don't) and you are unable to trade back.

Clowney's pretty much a joke ... LOL @ more speeding tickets than sacks ....

Hard to justify Matthews (I was on that ship for a while).


No one else has separated themselves yet - tho its early pre combine.

Mariota is staying in school , Johnny Football is difficult to forecast as an NFL talent , Bridgewater played against a bunch of scrubs and has piss poor mechanics .... Mettenberger & Murray have injury questions and McCarron is difficult at best to diagnose .... then again he could be this drafts Aaron Rogers.

Barr .... meh.

Do you take one of those questionable QB talents with huge bust potential over one of those position players like Mosley (best football player in this draft) who may lock down their position for a decade at a probowl level ?!

This is flat out the wrong year to have the #1 pick .....
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I'm going to let the RT in the first round at all thing slide.

Ok no I'm not, even before the new rookie CBA teams were taking RT prospects from pick 20 on. Sure these teams were usually already established, but still.

Personally I'd like to pry Cassel away from the Vikings somehow. That way we'll have at least 1 vet QB with experience dealing with O'Brien.

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... Piss poor mechanics? Bridgewater is pretty damn polished.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmH7jvQN4zk

You guys need to see this before you decide who is the QB.

originally posted by Vinny on another thread.
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... Piss poor mechanics? Bridgewater is pretty damn polished.
Apparently you haven't watched him throw the ball. Its like he is playing cricket, or trying to get the last out with a submarine slider at times. He rarely, from what I have seen personally, demonstrates the prototypical over-the-top mechanics that QB's are taught. He is an "athlete", nothing more. Will not be a star in the NFL.
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... Piss poor mechanics? Bridgewater is pretty damn polished.
Lol did he confuse Bridgewater with Vince Young?
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Apparently you haven't watched him throw the ball. Its like he is playing cricket, or trying to get the last out with a submarine slider at times. He rarely from what I have seen personally demonstrates the prototypical over-the-top mechanics that QB's are taught. He is an "athlete", nothing more. Will not be a star in the NFL.
LOL. Wow. Are YOU watching him play? I'll admit that his throwing motion is a little different, but to say he has "piss poor mechanics" couldn't be more inaccurate. He EASILY has the best footwork / accuracy in this draft.
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LOL. Wow. Are YOU watching him play? I'll admit that his throwing motion is a little different, but to say he has "piss poor mechanics" couldn't be more inaccurate. He EASILY has the best footwork / accuracy in this draft.
He is a good college QB, but the eye test shows his mechanics aren't great, and frankly his accuracy numbers are helped out by the receivers adjusting. Not to the extent that Schaub had ridiculous number mirages because of all his receivers bailing him out, but at times TB throws them up and has the talent go get them.
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He is a good college QB, but the eye test shows his mechanics aren't great, and frankly his accuracy numbers are helped out by the receivers adjusting. Not to the extent that Schaub had ridiculous number mirages because of all his receivers bailing him out, but at times TB throws them up and has the talent go get them.
lol Bridgewater puts the ball where only his receivers can get it.
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And Bridgewater is my QB for the simple fact I don't want anymore g'damn Aggies on this team.
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HWWNBM's numbers his first year in Kubiak's offense. Clearly better than those of Keenum this year at least in terms of completion percentage and extending drives.


My point was that BOTH of them SUCK at playing QB in the NFL.


If you went back and watched every play from Keenum this season , you'd realize the facts - He cant read an NFL defense. He didn't just miss a read here and there .... He missed the routine plays. He had no clue about protection scheme's either ... overload on one side (not a blitz) and he couldn't make the hot read and get rid of the ball.

Yeah , he made a few plays when he escaped pressure .... but those were few and far between once defenses realized all they had to do was blitz him ... those pretty much went the way of the Dodo.


I had high hopes for Keenum at one time too ..... but they were unrealistic. I'm glad he got his shot but its over , other than maybe as a backup.
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unless he sees something I don't see a Franchise QB in this draft so I would trade down or just use the pick on DEF
I wouldn't say there are no franchise QBs, just not any sure things. Bridgewater, Manziel, Mariotta (if he declares), Hundley could all be franchise QBs.

I just wouldn't pay a #1 overall for them. I'd be just as happy with Hundley at 12 as I would be with Bridgewater at 5.
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I want Bridgewater but I'll trust O'Brien to make the right call and decide who is right if we draft one over any poster on any message board.
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No matter what Jake Matthews or any guy who will play RT for us is not worth a first round pick at all much less the first overall. Find a guy to compete with Newton and the rest in the 2nd or 3rd at earliest.
What if we switch to a more traditional power run game? What if Duane Brown isn't good enough outside the ZBS? What if O'Brien already "knows" that?

So instead of drafting a RT, he's looking to draft a "better" LT?

I like Brown, but he's not the best guy to ever play the position. He had a down year in 2013, what if that's as good as it gets from here out? For some medical reason...

I understand we just signed him to a bunch of money, but starting him at LT because we paid him a lot of money is the same folly as starting Schaub because we paid him a lot of money.

I'm not saying that Jake Matthews or Taylor Lewan can beat out Duane Brown. But if they can, it improves our OL a lot better than just an upgrade at RT. We'll dominate at the point of attack.

Then we draft a Brees, Dalton, Kaepernick, or Wilson in the second which is just as likely as drafting the next Rogers, Roethlisberger, or Rivers in the first.
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After seeing Blake Bortles' girlfriend, I think he is the QB for us.
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Hopefully not Manziel.....
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At this point I see a bunch of QB's who all have a chance to develop into a franchise QB or if things don't work out as expected they could develop into the next color-commentary guy for their schools football radio broadcasts. No sure things but plenty of potential.

I don't want to say that I'm drunk on the BOB Kool-aid but I'm satisfied that he'll pick the best candidate for what he wants to do and he'll make that pick as much based on the football IQ of the guy as anything we're seeing in highlights on Youtube.

Bill's got this. I'm fine with whoever he decides to go with.
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At this point I see a bunch of QB's who all have a chance to develop into a franchise QB or if things don't work out as expected they could develop into the next color-commentary guy for their schools football radio broadcasts. No sure things but plenty of potential.

I don't want to say that I'm drunk on the BOB Kool-aid but I'm satisfied that he'll pick the best candidate for what he wants to do and he'll make that pick as much based on the football IQ of the guy as anything we're seeing in highlights on Youtube.

Bill's got this. I'm fine with whoever he decides to go with.
This is pretty much where I'm at also. Everything else is slingblade hand-wringing. The year JJ Watt was drafted I heard lots of moaning and griping...the year 0k0ye was drafted I heard lots of satisfied musings and the all knowing head nods.
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