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Old 12-31-2013   #81
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First bolded: DAYUM, how long does it take then TK?
They're just excuses, but Cutler has had some pretty good ones to explain why we haven't seen the best of Jay Cutler. I don't think he's ever had the same offensive coordinator for more than 2 years. He's been injured a lot. Chicago thought Devon Hester was a WR for a long time.

I don't believe Cutler can be a franchise QB, but I wouldn't be surprised & actually expect him to think that he can. But anyone who thinks we can't win with Cutler is trying to sell you something. They're afraid signing Cutler means we won't draft Bridgewater, or Bortles; that we'll miss on a franchise QB.

I'm saying we don't know that any of those guys will be a franchise QB. I'd be fine if the Texans pass on this class & targets one next year. At the same time, I'd be upset if they pass this year & next, or if their plan didn't work out & they couldn't position themselves next year to get a possible franchise guy.

Seattle didn't draft Russell Wilson expecting him to lead them to the play-offs, they signed Matt Flynn for that. San Francisco didn't draft Kaepernick with the expectation that he would take them to the NFC Championship game the following year. That was Alex Smith (who did the same thing the year before). The Colts weren't expecting to make the play-offs with Luck in his first season. Neither were the Redskins with Luck. They weren't expecting to win much at all.

If we don't hire a veteran QB who has won a number of games in the past; Cutler, Freeman, Flynn, Mallet.... then we're putting all our hopes in the "Bridgewater (or whoever) basket", content with the possibility that we'll have a losing season, or for some godforsaken reason think Case Keenum can win an NFL game.

I want a vet QB & a first/early second QB. If the Texans decide not to go that way, I'll pump the sunshine during the season, find some way to spin it.... but let it be known, right now I do not think it's conducive to winning & I won't think Bob, BO'b, or Smith are serious about winning.
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Bill O'Brien feels nowadays you need a QB who is practically a coach on the field. Who fits these parameters the best?
Honestly......... sounds like he's talking about Case Keenum.



I have a feeling we're going to be in for a long, long season. Or short, depending when you decide to check out.
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Other than Matt McGroin, who do you think he's talking about?
Duh, Case Keenum of course! He's so boss, he will revolutionize how the position is played.
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man I didn't know there was a "Garoppolo" in the QB mix, funniest name I've ever heard... that's my guy for sure!
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i take keenum and a draft pick from the first 2 rounds into next year. my argument has been that keenum had all the tools but wasnt quite ready yet, most of that being he needed a full offseason higher on the depth chart to get a better grip on the playbook and situational repetitions. i still believe that, though he did show enough that i'm worried he might have some issues that keep him from reaching his potential.

as for the draft pick, my ideal would be to trade down. then either grab a quarterback with our first pick, or a higher rated position player and then trade back up into the mid/late first and get the quarterback.
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I want a vet QB & a first/early second QB. If the Texans decide not to go that way, I'll pump the sunshine during the season, find some way to spin it.... but let it be known, right now I do not think it's conducive to winning & I won't think Bob, BO'b, or Smith are serious about winning.
So anyone who disagrees with your plan isn't serious about winning. My, such hubris.
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Duh, Case Keenum of course! He's so boss, he will revolutionize how the position is played.
LOL...I have no issue keeping Keenum as a #2, but nothing has convinced me that he has QB1 potential. But in saying that, if Obie sees something in him that can be turned into gold, then so be it, but I wouldn't put all my eggs in Case's basket.

Very few teams have more than one viable option at QB, so I would draft our future QB and let Obie assess what Case can actually do with some coaching and mentoring. Case was put in a very difficult position this season and once teams figured out that blitzing was all they needed to do to rattle the guy, his ability to play the position successfully was compromised, and we all know Kubiak did nothing to adjust to put him in a better position to make plays once he was figured out.

I'm excited about the future if Obie is our HC and believe we need to hit the reset button at QB. I don't honestly think our starting QB of next year is currently on the roster, but I'm not an NFL coach or talent scout. Bridgewater has shown he can make plays behind a bad OL...but I know nothing about his football smarts.

This offseason will be far more exciting than this season was.
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Hee Hee, that's the first one that came to my mind as well.
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There's much talk that the Bears may franchise Cutty. It makes financial sense for them as the tag is imagined to be in the area of 16.5ish million. That's not too far off from where his annual salary was with the Bears to begin with.

Even so, I've come to the realization that Cutler probably cannot be had for atleast $15 million and that is too steep for my taste.

I guess my quarterback for next year is Bridgewater... I'm scared.

You know, there's nothing stopping us from doing what the Redskins did when they took RGIII and simply draft two quarterbacks in there is another good one sitting there.
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The biggest question to me is , who's our QB next year. Nothing else will have as big an impact on W's and L's.

So .... who ya got ?!
1. Blake Bortles
2. Zach Mettenberger
3. Johnny Manziel
4. Teddy Bridgewater

(I think all go in the first round)
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1. Blake Bortles
2. Zach Mettenberger
3. Johnny Manziel
4. Teddy Bridgewater

(I think all go in the first round)
I'd take Bortles or Bridgewater. Manziel.... eh. Love him as an Aggie but can't really see him here, he seems like a guy destined to be an Oakland Raider or a Cleveland Brown.

Mettenberger looked great this year but that injury concerns me.
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I'd like us to sign Cutler. If we do choose to draft a QB in the first round, he can take time to learn under a veteran QB. I also believe Cutler gives us the best opportunity to win next year. I can't see a rookie QB leading us to a Super Bowl.
Sweet Mary...please no.
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Sweet Mary...please no.
Cutler isn't even the best QB on the Bears.
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The more I think about it, I don't even know if there is going to be a QB worth using our second round pick on when we get there. I think we need to look at 3rd or 4th round QB unless someone drops to the 2nd that isn't supposed to. Really only 3 or 4 QB's that you could justify 1st or 2nd round grades on this year. Picking one at #1 would be ignorant. Go build the OL and DL/DB with the first two or three rounds, then get a QB.
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I don't get it. The big knock against Mettenburger seems to be the knee injury, but then NOT have injury concerns with Cutler??

When has Cutler NOT been injured? Stop with this wanting to get Cutler here, as if he will miraculously become a more durable player, a player that will always answer the bell, hurting or not.

Cutler . . no thanks!
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So anyone who disagrees with your plan isn't serious about winning. My, such hubris.
If that's what your "law degree" gets out of my entire post..... whatever.

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Which is why he might be available & he's better than any QB we have on this team.

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When has Cutler NOT been injured? Stop with this wanting to get Cutler here, as if he will miraculously become a more durable player, a player that will always answer the bell, hurting or not.

Cutler . . no thanks!
What if he can help us to 10 wins before he gets hurt? Then Bridgewater takes over after watching from the sideline for 14 weeks, plus a bye. His legend starts in the play-offs.

Cutler moves on. We move on.
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I'm still holding out hope that Sage Rosenfels un-retires and leads the Texans to the promise land...
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1. Blake Bortles
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3. Johnny Manziel
4. Teddy Bridgewater

(I think all go in the first round)
They will. I want Manziel but Would be happy with any of the others listed.
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I'm still holding out hope that Sage Rosenfels un-retires and leads the Texans to the promise land...
Yeah, just tie some ropes to him and he can fly the team there.



I hear the NSA recently looked into bringing him in to fly around with surveillance cameras. They think his contract would be less than the cost of high tech drones.
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A lot of them this year, actually.
Name them and claim 'em. I am very disappointed in this year's crop as far as starting material. Some are LTs only like Kouandijo and others will have a NFL career as guards. Antonio Richardson could move to RT and maybe survive but imo would not beat out Newton. JuWuan James is only pure right tackle that could start day one. I also am interested in Moses but think he needs a year unless we go to a pure power O.

I think many are going to be surprised if Newton comes back 100% healthy.

Cyril Richardson now a OG would thrive at RT imo but would probably be day one starter replacing Smith if selected.


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