Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-30-2013   #781
cstyle42
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 480
Rep Power: 5283 cstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall View Post
I think your full of it. Rick Smith is not a token, he's a good GM. Those who think otherwise just want EVERYBODY FIRED ALL THE TIME! I've worked with people like that and they are not successful, at least for very long.
Think what you think just keep buying tickets keep the faith lol
cstyle42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #782
cstyle42
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 480
Rep Power: 5283 cstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by kingtexan View Post
David Carr would have been much better, maybe not great but I feel very good if it weren't for how the organization handled him. Chris Palmer killed Carr's career IMO.
I won't disagree with that.
cstyle42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #783
cstyle42
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 480
Rep Power: 5283 cstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck View Post
Oh, of course. The IT factor.

Seriously?

Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and Joe Flacco laugh at your IT factor.
No they're laughing at us for attempting to be the John Elway led Denver Broncos of this era with Matt Schaub at qb...
cstyle42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #784
CretorFrigg
Fire Rick Smith
 
CretorFrigg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Texas
Age: 33
Posts: 2,984
Rep Power: 35618 CretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respectedCretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respectedCretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respectedCretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respectedCretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respectedCretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respectedCretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respectedCretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respectedCretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respectedCretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respectedCretorFrigg is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall View Post
I think your full of it. Rick Smith is not a token, he's a good GM. Those who think otherwise just want EVERYBODY FIRED ALL THE TIME! I've worked with people like that and they are not successful, at least for very long.
Just wanted to quote this because it's too funny not to be on this page.
__________________
CretorFrigg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #785
htownfan32
Hall of Fame
 
htownfan32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: College Station, TX
Posts: 4,320
Rep Power: 134590 htownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchrudder View Post
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Kubiak end up in Cleveland. Either as a HC or an OC.
I hope so. Something tells me Kubiak is waiting for Sumlin's inevitable departure from College Station to become the A&M head coach. Just a weird (and somewhat sickening) hunch.
__________________
"Do not be too hard, lest you be broken; do not be too soft, lest you be squeezed."
"Know that people are of two types: they are either your brothers in religion or your equals in creation"
- Ali
htownfan32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #786
ObsiWan
Site Contributor
 
ObsiWan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: League City, Tx
Age: 63
Posts: 15,086
Rep Power: 288222 ObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hervoyel View Post
It comes right behind his "sh" factor.

damn...
MSR
ObsiWan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #787
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
 
The Pencil Neck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 52
Posts: 19,046
Rep Power: 341333 The Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by cstyle42 View Post
No they're laughing at us for attempting to be the John Elway led Denver Broncos of this era with Matt Schaub at qb...
No.

They're laughing at anyone who judges a QB on the IT factor.
__________________
Adoptee: #55 - Chris Myers.
The Pencil Neck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #788
cstyle42
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 480
Rep Power: 5283 cstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck View Post
No.

They're laughing at anyone who judges a QB on the IT factor.
That's all Schaub was ever missing. The ability to make the right big play in the biggest moments when it really counted outside that he was a good system qb. The "it" factor measures that. Foster helped hide that as well as other players on offense. Schaub was not just bad he was horrible when it came to showing up big in a positive way in big games. Ultimately that makes or breaks most qb's in this league but Schaub ended his tenure here still throwing picks in big moments. If that's something to laugh at then whatever...
cstyle42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #789
thunderkyss 
& so it begins
 
thunderkyss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Age: 42
Posts: 36,246
Rep Power: 322585 thunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to thunderkyss
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck View Post
But that was really the point of the discussion. You can't rely on a player having "IT" when he comes out of college being the determining factor on whether you can win a SB with him. A lot of QBs have "IT" in college and fail in the pros while other QBs develop "IT" once they get to the pros. And then there are teams that win despite the QB not having "IT".
I think there's a big difference. College guys have the "it" factor. Peyton, Brady, Rogers have the "IT" factor.

The question is whether those college QBs can translate their "it" into "IT"

But I never argued "it" should be the determining factor.
__________________
thunderkyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #790
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
 
The Pencil Neck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 52
Posts: 19,046
Rep Power: 341333 The Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by cstyle42 View Post
That's all Schaub was ever missing. The ability to make the right big play in the biggest moments when it really counted outside that he was a good system qb. The "it" factor measures that. Foster helped hide that as well as other players on offense. Schaub was not just bad he was horrible when it came to showing up big in a positive way in big games. Ultimately that makes or breaks most qb's in this league but Schaub ended his tenure here still throwing picks in big moments. If that's something to laugh at then whatever...
The "IT" factor is BS. The "IT" factor is not a measurable.

Do you realize that prior to his foot injury, Schaub had a 120 rating against the blitz? How many times prior to the 2011 season did Schaub show up at the end of a game just to be let down by his defense or his kicker? After his foot injury, he was a totally different guy. It took a while for defenses to realize it but once they did, he was toast.

Your "IT" factor is just looking at a successful guy and then saying he's got the "IT" factor because he's successful. It's a classic tautology.

Coming out of college, Tom Brady didn't have the "IT" factor; he couldn't even clearly win the QB job at his own college. And his first couple of years in the league, he wasn't that good. And if it hadn't been for a little known rule that's no longer on the books, he wouldn't have won that first SB and he probably would have had his hands full beating out Bledsoe for the Patriots job.

Oh... but now... after a successful career and with 20-20 hindsight, Tom Brady has "IT".
__________________
Adoptee: #55 - Chris Myers.
The Pencil Neck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #791
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
 
The Pencil Neck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 52
Posts: 19,046
Rep Power: 341333 The Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderkyss View Post
I think there's a big difference. College guys have the "it" factor. Peyton, Brady, Rogers have the "IT" factor.

The question is whether those college QBs can translate their "it" into "IT"

But I never argued "it" should be the determining factor.
No, but cstyle is and that's who my original posts regarding "IT" were in response to.

"IT" is just "Success" or "Big Plays At Big Times." Lots of guys in college make those big plays and would appear to have "IT" and lots of guys wouldn't. But that has very little relation to how they perform in the pros because they're in a different situation with different caliber of players.

And that's my point.
__________________
Adoptee: #55 - Chris Myers.
The Pencil Neck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #792
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
 
paycheck71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Salt Lake City
Age: 43
Posts: 1,108
Rep Power: 53113 paycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respectedpaycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respectedpaycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respectedpaycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respectedpaycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respectedpaycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respectedpaycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respectedpaycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respectedpaycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respectedpaycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respectedpaycheck71 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck View Post
The "IT" factor is BS. The "IT" factor is not a measurable.
Some people prefer the Skip Bayless / Steven A Smith reasoning of not bothering to look any deeper than the surface. Analyzing a player's ability, what he does in certain situation, what are his strengths, weaknesses, etc, etc, etc, is too time consuming and requires a certain knowledge of the subject matter. It's much easier to just get all emotional and declare that someone doesn't have the "it" factor and therefore will never win "the big one" based on one's "eyeball test."
paycheck71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #793
Honoring Earl 34
Hey Koolaid
 
Honoring Earl 34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Houston
Age: 51
Posts: 19,348
Rep Power: 212977 Honoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck View Post
No, but cstyle is and that's who my original posts regarding "IT" were in response to.

"IT" is just "Success" or "Big Plays At Big Times." Lots of guys in college make those big plays and would appear to have "IT" and lots of guys wouldn't. But that has very little relation to how they perform in the pros because they're in a different situation with different caliber of players.

And that's my point.
Yep ... in the pros , IT means I will do above and beyond what it takes to win this week .
__________________
I wanted to write something big .

Round Dan
Honoring Earl 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #794
kingtexan
Hall of Fame
 
kingtexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Humble, TX
Age: 46
Posts: 2,296
Rep Power: 64484 kingtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedkingtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedkingtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedkingtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedkingtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedkingtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedkingtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedkingtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedkingtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedkingtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedkingtexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Too many times this was mentioned in relationship to Matt Schaub so in reply to all of the above. QBR is bull****. Even the former players on all the major football pre-games acknowledge it means nothing.

I will take Brett Favre's and Peyton Manning's desire to rip your heart out over QBR any day.
kingtexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #795
Honoring Earl 34
Hey Koolaid
 
Honoring Earl 34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Houston
Age: 51
Posts: 19,348
Rep Power: 212977 Honoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respectedHonoring Earl 34 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by kingtexan View Post
David Carr would have been much better, maybe not great but I feel very good if it weren't for how the organization handled him. Chris Palmer killed Carr's career IMO.
Palmer didn't kill Carr . Carr had bad mechanics which means he never took to coaching . He probably had his dad in his ear the whole time , like QB75 was some expert or something .
__________________
I wanted to write something big .

Round Dan
Honoring Earl 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #796
Tolar's Ghost
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 215
Rep Power: 3247 Tolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by htownfan32 View Post
...Something tells me Kubiak is waiting for Sumlin's inevitable departure from College Station to become the A&M head coach...
Schefter reported today that Kubiak is a candidate for the HC job in Tampa.
Tolar's Ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #797
beerlover
Site Contributor
 
beerlover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 12,552
Rep Power: 66422 beerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respectedbeerlover is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolar's Ghost View Post
Schefter reported today that Kubiak is a candidate for the HC job in Tampa.
I think he would be better served taking a year off & recharging his battery, season was brutal on him.
__________________

2012 Draft was Mercilus
beerlover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #798
cstyle42
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 480
Rep Power: 5283 cstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck View Post
The "IT" factor is BS. The "IT" factor is not a measurable.

Do you realize that prior to his foot injury, Schaub had a 120 rating against the blitz? How many times prior to the 2011 season did Schaub show up at the end of a game just to be let down by his defense or his kicker? After his foot injury, he was a totally different guy. It took a while for defenses to realize it but once they did, he was toast.

Your "IT" factor is just looking at a successful guy and then saying he's got the "IT" factor because he's successful. It's a classic tautology.

Coming out of college, Tom Brady didn't have the "IT" factor; he couldn't even clearly win the QB job at his own college. And his first couple of years in the league, he wasn't that good. And if it hadn't been for a little known rule that's no longer on the books, he wouldn't have won that first SB and he probably would have had his hands full beating out Bledsoe for the Patriots job.

Oh... but now... after a successful career and with 20-20 hindsight, Tom Brady has "IT".
Will Schaub lead a team to a AFC Championship game in his career? Did his qbr take the texans there? Tom Brady is successful because he shows up in big games. Does he win every year? No. He has won games... late 4th quarter with seconds left games... he has done that many many times. The texans wasn't even asking Schaub to be Brady... just be half of Brady but don't literally lose the games for us. Most were in denial about Schaub but if you are honest about it Schaub was overrated hence the contract the texans signed him to. I know this thread is about the future head coach Bill O'Brien who would have had Schaub outta here or benched all long time ago.
cstyle42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #799
cstyle42
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 480
Rep Power: 5283 cstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respectedcstyle42 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck View Post
No, but cstyle is and that's who my original posts regarding "IT" were in response to.

"IT" is just "Success" or "Big Plays At Big Times." Lots of guys in college make those big plays and would appear to have "IT" and lots of guys wouldn't. But that has very little relation to how they perform in the pros because they're in a different situation with different caliber of players.

And that's my point.
Nope you assumed I'm making all about the "it" factor. It's not when evaluating every qb. It's just with Schaub it's a glaring weakness that plagues him. The other facets of his game was acceptable and understood by most to be average to good.
cstyle42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013   #800
DBCooper 
Outlaw
 
DBCooper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Winter Park, FL
Age: 46
Posts: 3,903
Rep Power: 135371 DBCooper is a quality contributor and well respectedDBCooper is a quality contributor and well respectedDBCooper is a quality contributor and well respectedDBCooper is a quality contributor and well respectedDBCooper is a quality contributor and well respectedDBCooper is a quality contributor and well respectedDBCooper is a quality contributor and well respectedDBCooper is a quality contributor and well respectedDBCooper is a quality contributor and well respectedDBCooper is a quality contributor and well respectedDBCooper is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: New HC candidates

After careful consideration, Aaron Rodgers has "IT".
__________________
What's that at the bottom of the barrel? Just the inbred children of Uranus!
DBCooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger