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Old 12-30-2013   #761
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Really. Just how desperate for a HCing job would a candidate have to be to sign on with that circus of a franchise? Lombardi and all. Geeze.
Interestingly enough, just a little while ago they had the Browns press conference, and Lombardi was not a part of it. I wonder how involved he was in this coaching decision.
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Is Wade going back to Dallas as their new DC?????

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He has a house in Dallas, and his son (I think) is the Cowboys TE coach. So, unless there is a job for him in Houston, he might just move back to be closer with family.
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I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Kubiak end up in Cleveland. Either as a HC or an OC.
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I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Kubiak end up in Cleveland. Either as a HC or an OC.
They've said they're interested in the Broncos OC and the Seahawks... DC, iirc. Both very young guys that don't have a ton of experience.

And they're both guys that aren't going to be available for a couple of weeks, at least.

So that's an interesting approach.
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They've said they're interested in the Broncos OC and the Seahawks... DC, iirc. Both very young guys that don't have a ton of experience.

And they're both guys that aren't going to be available for a couple of weeks, at least.

So that's an interesting approach.
Gase is getting a lot of run from some of the media folks. He could do well for them.
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Your mistake here is believing that people are always the same person.

The Matt Schaub that led the league in passing is a different person than the Matt Schaub that came back after his foot injury. The David Carr that was too scared to throw to anyone was a different guy than the one who was averaging 270 yards per game at the beginning of the 2004 season.

I don't know Rick Smith's true role because I'm not in the meetings, I'm not in the war-room during the drafts, I'm not the one hearing what the owner and coaches are saying. And neither are you. I don't know if Rick Smith should be fired because I don't know which decisions were strictly his and which decisions were ones he got over-ridden on. Bob McNair should know who is responsible for which screw-ups because he was there and he took part.

So I'm willing to wait and see.
Your mistake is not understanding that either a guy has the "it" factor or they don't. Carr nor Schaub had it. Schaub proved that all the years he was here. At least Carr could say the team sucked.
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It looks like it will take you 5 more years to figure out Rick Smith true role like it took 5 years to figure out Matt Schaub and David Carr are who they are. Only in Houston...
David Carr would have been much better, maybe not great but I feel very good if it weren't for how the organization handled him. Chris Palmer killed Carr's career IMO.
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Your mistake is not understanding that either a guy has the "it" factor or they don't. Carr nor Schaub had it. Schaub proved that all the years he was here. At least Carr could say the team sucked.
Oh, of course. The IT factor.

Seriously?

Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and Joe Flacco laugh at your IT factor.
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VY has the "it factor".......
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VY has the "it factor".......
So does Tebow.
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VY has the "it factor".......
It comes right behind his "sh" factor.
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It comes right behind his "sh" factor.
Now that's funny!
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Oh, of course. The IT factor.

Seriously?

Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and Joe Flacco laugh at your IT factor.
With the exception of Dilfer & Johnson, those guys have BIG "I" IT factor. Big difference.

Dilfer & Johnson had elite defenses.
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That's exactly what I'm saying about Rick Smith in the Texans organization. Not every GM in the nfl.
I think your full of it. Rick Smith is not a token, he's a good GM. Those who think otherwise just want EVERYBODY FIRED ALL THE TIME! I've worked with people like that and they are not successful, at least for very long.
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With the exception of Dilfer & Johnson, those guys have BIG "I" IT factor. Big difference.
Where were Brady and Warner drafted? They did NOT have the IT factor until they'd been in the league for a couple of years. Neither of them were supposed to be the QB of the team they took to the SB the first time they went.

Now. After they were in the league a few years and had proven themselves and developed, they were awesome and indeed, had the IT factor. But they didn't have it coming out of college.

And Flacco? Dude is not a great QB.
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I think there are some great High School Coaches he could interview... I mean, that's what's left after you've begun a scorched earth policy on candidates.
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Where were Brady and Warner drafted? They did NOT have the IT factor until they'd been in the league for a couple of years. Neither of them were supposed to be the QB of the team they took to the SB the first time they went.

Now. After they were in the league a few years and had proven themselves and developed, they were awesome and indeed, had the IT factor. But they didn't have it coming out of college.
Agree. I only said they've got "IT" not arguing how/when they acquired it.

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And Flacco? Dude is not a great QB.
No doubt. Neither is Luck. But both are well on their way. They remind me of Brady, who was also not a great QB his first 4 years in the league.

There was a time when I used to laugh at the QB "competition" where many would say Brady was the best, others would say Peyton. Brady didn't have the skills to compete with Peyton. He was clutch, where Peyton was not, but Peyton was hands down the better of the two.

Now.... Brady is as good as Peyton ever was & Peyton still is not clutch.


Flacco is getting long in the tooth & may never be as good. Luck... 10 years from now, scary.
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Agree. I only said they've got "IT" not arguing how/when they acquired it.
But that was really the point of the discussion. You can't rely on a player having "IT" when he comes out of college being the determining factor on whether you can win a SB with him. A lot of QBs have "IT" in college and fail in the pros while other QBs develop "IT" once they get to the pros. And then there are teams that win despite the QB not having "IT".
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