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Old 12-29-2013   #741
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Thanks for making my point for me. Rick gets ALL the blame for Reed.

He never even asked Wade about Reed, just signed him. Don't even consult you DC before signing a starter?

I rest my case.
Im thinking Reed was Bobs doing .
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I think the word you're looking for is "figurehead"

cstylewhatever is saying that Rick is a token...

I hope that's not what you're saying.
I say exactly what I mean. You and I both know why he was hired and why he is still here.
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I think the word you're looking for is "figurehead"

cstylewhatever is saying that Rick is a token...

I hope that's not what you're saying.
It has to be.....................they are the same person.
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I say exactly what I mean. You and I both know why he was hired and why he is still here.
Sorry.... now I know.
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Sorry.... now I know.
Neither one of y'all want Teddy so you still have that .
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1- Rick Smith's 1st round pick record since 2008 is better than any other NFL team during that period:
2008- Duane Brown
2009- Brian Cushing
2010- Kareem Jackson
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2012- Winston Mercilus
2013- Deandre Hopkins

* by the way, you may not be happy with the amount of cap room the Texans have this year... However, the Texans cap is healthy. By healthy I mean there are not a bunch of upside down contracts that will lead to a series of difficult decisions and compromises the next couple years, while kicking the can down the road for three years, leading to an inevitable blowup of the team due to cap constraints.

Instead, the Texans can immediately clear $20 million in additional cap space this off-season without sacrificing future years and without destroying the team's talent base. Other than Brian Cushing and maybe Duane Brown, the can cut any of their higher paid veterans this off-season and it would grow the cap savings... In other words, the accelerated cap hit would be less than the cap charge due for that season... So, the makeup of the roster can be quickly adjusted when the new staff comes in.

When O'brien (hopefully) starts reviewing the roster, he is free to consider cutting or trading anyone on the roster other than Cushing and DBrown... It's a very good situation for a new staff.
Conviently left out OkOye.

There's more to the draft than the 1st rd. However I dont think Slick Rick had much say in the draft.
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Eh I'm not going to fault anyone for Okoye. Dude had serious potential that he just wasted.
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After his rook season, seems to me Okoye was more focused on promoting football in Africa than playing football. What he was trying to promote in Africa was good thing but, he seems to forget what made him able to do these things that he wanted to do.
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Eh I'm not going to fault anyone for Okoye. Dude had serious potential that he just wasted.

Exactly and in his rookie he flashed that potential, but not so much after that.


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This has to be one of the most misguided attempts to rationalize the Texans draft history. FTFA:

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In identifying these metrics, we selected variables that could be (a) measured across all positions, (b) captured the usability and durability of each player (% of games played, career length), and (c) player quality (% of games started, Pro Bowl status).
So get this, even if you are starting horrible players and doing poorly (this case 2005-2009) you still get points as long as your team drafted those guys. So players like Okoye, Jacoby Jones, Travis Johnson, Fred Bennett, Zach Diles, etc starting, you still get points. No matter where they were drafted or how good they are in comparison to others at the same position around the league. That's just pointless to me. Case in point, the Cowboys were their number 3 team on that list. It's correlation, and nothing more.

This team is 2-14, and the GM who had an integral part in building it is still here. Debate all you want about his amount of power, if he can't take credit for the current state of the team, then he shouldn't have a job in the first place. Either he was an integral part of the Texans organization the last 5 years that has come full circle to a 2-14 record, or he's a useless yes-man that isn't worth keeping around in the first place.
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This team is 2-14, and the GM who had an integral part in building it is still here. Debate all you want about his amount of power, if he can't take credit for the current state of the team, then he shouldn't have a job in the first place. Either he was an integral part of the Texans organization the last 5 years that has come full circle to a 2-14 record, or he's a useless yes-man that isn't worth keeping around in the first place.
So how bad does Kansas City's GM look now? How 'bout them Cardinals?
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Thanks for making my point for me. Rick gets ALL the blame for Reed.

He never even asked Wade about Reed, just signed him. Don't even consult you DC before signing a starter?

I rest my case.
Ed Reed was a BOB McNAIR pick. It was Uncle Bob who sent his plane to fetch Ed Reed. If you want to "blame" anyone for the Ed Reed decision, blame the bossman.
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I think the word you're looking for is "figurehead"

cstylewhatever is saying that Rick is a token...

I hope that's not what you're saying.
It looks like it will take you 5 more years to figure out Rick Smith true role like it took 5 years to figure out Matt Schaub and David Carr are who they are. Only in Houston...
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It looks like it will take you 5 more years to figure out Rick Smith true role like it took 5 years to figure out Matt Schaub and David Carr are who they are. Only in Houston...
Your mistake here is believing that people are always the same person.

The Matt Schaub that led the league in passing is a different person than the Matt Schaub that came back after his foot injury. The David Carr that was too scared to throw to anyone was a different guy than the one who was averaging 270 yards per game at the beginning of the 2004 season.

I don't know Rick Smith's true role because I'm not in the meetings, I'm not in the war-room during the drafts, I'm not the one hearing what the owner and coaches are saying. And neither are you. I don't know if Rick Smith should be fired because I don't know which decisions were strictly his and which decisions were ones he got over-ridden on. Bob McNair should know who is responsible for which screw-ups because he was there and he took part.

So I'm willing to wait and see.
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So how bad does Kansas City's GM look now? How 'bout them Cardinals?
That Chiefs GM is currently working for NBC, and that Cardinals GM is now working for the Jets. If your saying those two teams should serve as models for the Texans (at least as far as how to deal with the GM), then I completely concur.
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If Cleveland is dumb enough to let the rest of the coaching staff leave with Chud, I'd love to see us grab Horton as DC; him as DC and O'Brien as HC would be the best of both worlds.
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Looks like the Browns are out on BO'B

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Apparently Browns FO was not that impressed with the O'Brien interview, described as "rocky" and Zimmer must not interview well, he's been on quite a few.
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Apparently Browns FO was not that impressed with the O'Brien interview, described as "rocky" and Zimmer must not interview well, he's been on quite a few.
The Browns better not burn bridges because I think they can't be real picky .
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The Browns better not burn bridges because I think they can't be real picky .
Really. Just how desperate for a HCing job would a candidate have to be to sign on with that circus of a franchise? Lombardi and all. Geeze.
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