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Old 12-28-2013   #301
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Quick: everyone name the best things Pats coordinators have done as head coach since leaving Belichick. Go.
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You know what, I'd be pissed if this happens.

I'm tired of Patriots cast offs as everyone knows by now (with all the other failures associated from the Pats), STOP.

NO. No No No!

They have not been successful. AT ALL.

Want to lose Dre? There you go. Want a 5-11 season and consider it a success? There you go.

Sick and tired of this ****. How can Isray get it right but a multi-billionaire can't?

There you go.
Your assessment of O'Brien's possible hire is basically down to how other former Patriots coaches performed? Do you really think this is the only reason that O'Brien is coveted by numerous NFL and NCAA teams? Do you know anything about this coach? I know being a fan is all about emotion, but at some point you have to use your mind.
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And both of them were out of work for more than 1 season before Gary hired them. More FoG if you ask me. I wish I knew a site that you could see what AC's have been paid throughout the yrs and the correlation between paying AC's vs winning teams.

Can you tell me what Sherman/Rhodes were paid PER yr while they were here? If not I think we are both jumping to conclusions. The fact that Sherman/Rhodes were out of work for multiple yrs before signing on with Gary leads me to believe they came on the cheap.
Sherman was fired by the Packers after the final game of the 2005 season (Jan. 1, 2006) and hired by the Texans on Feb. 15, 2006. That's about 6 weeks. Ray Rhodes was never on the market for any length of time either. After his health issues, he stayed on with the SeaHawks in a reduced role thru the 2007 season. He started with the Texans in the 2008 season.

You say we're both jumping to conclusions, and if you mean neither of us has objective, verifiable facts we can point/link to, then as I said before, yes - I agree with that. If by jumping to conclusions you mean stating things with no other reasoning or logic (beyond a couple of incorrect statements about how long the assistant coaches were out of work), then only one of us has done that.
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Quick: everyone name the best things Pats coordinators have done as head coach since leaving Belichick. Go.
Well, one took over a college program full of scandal, where students were allowed to transfer out without penalty, where new recruits were told there was no hope for a national championship, no hope for a bowl game, and has put together 2 winning seasons.

Honestly, it doesn't matter what any others have done, because they are not being interviewed for the head coaching position with the Houston Texans.
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Honestly, it doesn't matter what any others have done, because they are not being interviewed for the head coaching position with the Houston Texans.
And ... boom goes the dynamite ...
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Well, one took over a college program full of scandal, where students were allowed to transfer out without penalty, where new recruits were told there was no hope for a national championship, no hope for a bowl game, and has put together 2 winning seasons.

Honestly, it doesn't matter what any others have done, because they are not being interviewed for the head coaching position with the Houston Texans.
But he's from the north! A damned Yankee!
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And ... boom goes the dynamite ...
Oh, boom. You burned me.

The Texans don't have a great history (as evidenced by the fact that Marciano was allowed to peddle his BS forever), so call me skeptical.
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You know what, I'd be pissed if this happens.

I'm tired of Patriots cast offs as everyone knows by now (with all the other failures associated from the Pats), STOP.

NO. No No No!

They have not been successful. AT ALL.
I hear what you're saying, but unlike all the others, O'Brien actually did something after leaving Belichick's fold & becoming an NFL head coach. This one might be different.

I wanted the Whizz.... but I liked all the guys mentioned in our "search"
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Oh, boom. You burned me.

The Texans don't have a great history (as evidenced by the fact that Marciano was allowed to peddle his BS forever), so call me skeptical.
No argument from me with Marciano. His tenure here was a joke.

I like Bill O though. What he did under the tremendous pressure at Penn State was impressive.

Plus if he was listening and learning, working under Belichick could be a great asset.
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This guy is by far the best candidate available. Who the hell wants Lovie Smith? Whisenhunt? We'd look like the same old Texans. This guy is a leader and knows a thing or two about a thing or two. This team is going to change if they get him and it's going to be good for everyone.
For some reason I get the feeling you would have poo-pood the decision to hire Belichick after he failed miserably in Cleveland.
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Well, I am thinking about 2011 when Andre was either out/ or hobbled after week two... We are damn good that year!
If we could run the ball like we did back then, with a halfway decent play maker at QB (who can read the blitz in the second half).... this team can go places.
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Would've rather had a proven NFL winning HC. But I really like the O'Brien hire. If he can talk Mangini into becoming his DC that would make me very happy.

I'm just glad BoB spent the $$$$ for a quality hire.
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If we could run the ball like we did back then, with a halfway decent play maker at QB (who can read the blitz in the second half).... this team can go places.
Did Keenum/Schabub forget how to read defenses in 2nd halves of games? Or is/was that on Gary/Dennison.
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Well, we're now in the messy stage of job negotiations: money and details. This could take a few days of back and forth before a deal is reached.


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Did Keenum/Schabub forget how to read defenses in 2nd halves of games? Or is/was that on Gary/Dennison.
Neither Gary or Dennison was on the field when the team was blitzed. Schaub has mobility issues, Case has "scared little girl syndrome" Teams blitzed him more frequently as the game went on (i.e. second half).
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Just like with draftable players, I judge hc candidates as independent men. Its the organizational skills of the coach moreso than than the tree. I hope he brings weiss and romeo with him.
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Just like with draftable players, I judge hc candidates as independent men. Its the organizational skills of the coach moreso than than the tree. I hope he brings weiss and romeo with him.
Weiss is the head coach at Kansas, but I'd be happy with Crennel.
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Woke up turned on tv to watch teddy Bridgewater and seen the announcement that we are trying to come to terms with Obrian. Figure this must be a sign. Looks like it's going to be Obrian and teddy.

Second play of the game teddy gets sacked for a safety. Ugghh!!
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Neither Gary or Dennison was on the field when the team was blitzed. Schaub has mobility issues, Case has "scared little girl syndrome" Teams blitzed him more frequently as the game went on (i.e. second half).
None of this popped up in the 1st half of games?
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