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Old 12-15-2013   #401
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Didn't get to watch the game, but saw the score.

It seems like it is the opinion of most that the whole staff needs to go. I can definitely agree with that. However, the disturbing thing that I'm reading is that the players are quitting. Does this mean many of the players have to go also, or is it simply a matter of getting new coaches in?
After today's game, I think at least half the players on this team need to go. It. Was. Bad.


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That's not the point Nate. It's not about money. It is about having some class and handling your business without trying to humiliate someone who gave you his everything.

This move humiliated Kubiak and damages his chances to get another HC job. Should have let Kubiak finish out the year.
Building a handpicked team that players quit on you will do more damage to Gary ever getting a HC job, than BoB firing Gary with 3 games left in the season ever could.
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I'm of the opinion that Gary got more time than he earned. Not many coaches get to stay around almost eight years with a .500 record, unless you mix in a few trips to the Super Bowl, which Gary didn't have. It was beyond time to let him go, so I don't feel there is anything wrong with him being let go when it happened.
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It's difficult to believe that the Texans are really this bad. But damn, they are truly pathetic. I keep hoping that any game now they'll finally rise up, but that isn't going to happen. Guess it's between us and Washington now to see who is the worst of the year in 2013.
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this is just a sad thing now i kinda feel sorry for wade his farther loved this city and wade does two kinda sad how this all ended up like this. we really need to go full blown reset mode next year rebuilding rather bob likes it or not and i dont wanna rebuild with rick smith on the council dark days are ahead my friends
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Blow the whole franchise up.
That's been my stance for some time now but McNair just wants to smear on a band-aid. Not gonna work.

The owner is startin' to piss me off!
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Hey, why not? Our offense is so predictable that there is room for the other team to try trick plays, new plays, etc. Wouldn't shock me if the Colts brought in the water boy to play QB.


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There are still people on this board that have the nerve to defend Kubiak?!?

With fans like these, no wonder Houston sports have been the laughing stock of the sports world. We will never have accountability with our sports teams if we the fans don't ever start expecting, no demanding, greatness from our franchises that we spend our hard earned money on.

Kubiak is a good guy; he isn't a good head coach. We needed to fire him so we could see what we have with the rest of the coaching staff. Today showed us we have a whole lot of nothing on this staff. The players have quit. It's time we the fans quit on them until the organization cleans house.
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With fans like these, no wonder Houston sports have been the laughing stock of the sports world.
I don't see how you can put the blame on Houston's pro sports failures on the fans. They don't block, tackle, run, catch, shoot, rebound, pitch, hit or field.
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That's been my stance for some time now but McNair just wants to smear on a band-aid. Not gonna work.

The owner is startin' to piss me off!
But see: if you put a band aid on it these same fans that defend anything the org does will continue to buy in and that means the $$$$ will keep on rolling in for Uncle BoB.

No need to build a solid foundation/trenches. That's not sexy enough for Boardroom BoB.
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I don't see how you can put the blame on Houston's pro sports failures on the fans. They don't block, tackle, run, catch, shoot, rebound, pitch, hit or field.
You aren't demanding enough. If you had only banged your fist more and derided the team more they would have gone back to the playoffs this year.
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You aren't demanding enough. If you had only banged your fist more and derided the team more they would have gone back to the playoffs this year.
I'm just saying sometimes there is something to the fans protesting, not showing up to games, not buying merchandise, etc. I think Houston fans, especially football fans, are so wounded by the Oilers leaving town that they are scared to demand excellence from their franchise. People should have been calling for Kubiak to lose his job after the 2010 season when we went 6-10. 5 years was plenty to know what we had.

Instead, we keep Kubiak, make the playoffs for two years simply because for some odd reason teams just can't figure Wade Philips out his first season with a team, and have to go through this whole process 3 years later. I wanted Harbaugh that year, and one can only imagine how different things could have gone had we just bit the bullet and fired Kubiak after he had already proven to be inept at making second half adjustments or clock management. But go on with your cute little quips. You are one funny dude, cak.
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The majority of the fans wanted Kubiak gone in 2010. If the decision had been put to a vote casted by season ticket holders, he would have been gone. It doesn't work that way, however. Not our fault.
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You aren't demanding enough. If you had only banged your fist more and derided the team more they would have gone back to the playoffs this year.
The whole Texans org deserves to be derided for this yrs putrid performance.
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The majority of the fans wanted Kubiak gone in 2010. If the decision had been put to a vote casted by season ticket holders, he would have been gone. It doesn't work that way, however. Not our fault.
Are you sure about that? Have any numbers to back up that statement? I remember hearing a ton of homers still claiming he deserved more time, that he needed a better defensive coordinator, still was working with Casserly and Capers players, etc. It seemed to be excuse after excuse for Gary.

Anyway, I'm not calling Houston fans bad fans by any means. More than anything my statement was intended as a jab to those "fans" that are so blinded by their loyalty to a specific player or coach that they are willing to sacrifice wins just in the hopes that they will eventually be correct about said player or coach.
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Are you sure about that? Have any numbers to back up that statement?

Anyway, I'm not calling Houston fans bad fans by any means. More than anything my statement was intended as a jab to those "fans" that are so blinded by their loyalty to a specific player or coach that they are willing to sacrifice wins just in the hopes that they will eventually be correct about said player or coach.
Then argue that, rather than take it to the absrd conclusion that the teams, failures are on the fans.
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I don't remember ever falling asleep during a texans game. I was looking forward to at least seeing what players are worth keeping next season but it feels more like these last few games will be like the fourth preseason games. Dennison is too kubak esque to be a good Oc and wade is well... Too much like wade.
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Anyway, I'm not calling Houston fans bad fans by any means. More than anything my statement was intended as a jab to those "fans" that are so blinded by their loyalty to a specific player or coach that they are willing to sacrifice wins just in the hopes that they will eventually be correct about said player or coach.
So you're mad at fans for being fans?

For years I've heard people try to define what a "real fan" was. Usually it's some form of rooting for the team through thick and thin. This is the first I've heard it as essentially quit rooting for the team until it wins.

Personally, I root for players and coaches as much as I root for the team. It's why I tend to follow players that I like even after they leave and get very uncomfortable when a player I don't like or respect is on my team. I will continue to root for college players that enter the pro arena.

I remember being happy for Lance Berkman after he finally won a world series. I was genuinely happy for a grown man I have never met. I honestly dislike the idea that AJ may never win a SB with the Texans. Again, a grown man I have never met.

Like a team that has a huge financial or draft pick invested in a player, fans will always be more patient with players they have an emotional investment in. They are, after all, fans.
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What this team needs is a good kick in the ass. I hate when everything is going wrong and our coaches just stand their like statues and say nothing to players. I want a coach who holds players accountable, and will rip players a new ass hole when they arent doing their jobs.

Also i have been a big Case suppporter but i think this coaching staff has ruined him and what he does great. He had so man chances to scramble and move the pocket today and yet he didnt. He is staying in the pocket even though he shouldnt. And we all know what he can do outside the pocket.

On that note Case does not look like the answer next season. We better draft good this off season is all i know.
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