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Old 12-07-2013   #121
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The reason I don't have Teddy higher in my evaluations is I disagree with you, Bridgewaters arm is NOT on par with peyton,rodgers,eli,luck,and brees. Bridgewaters arm is on par with Landry Jones and why I think he will be a bust. His deep floater is an NFL INT waiting to happen.
Id argue with you all day on his ball velocity. Do you remember the knock on peyton arm vs leaf? Peytons ball wobble a lot was the word vs the guy who can throw it through the car wash and not get wet. Phil simms said luck can't really drive the ball and can't make all the throws. Rodgers, go read his reports and the stigma of benefitting from the tedford touch. He always had a nfl arm,but in cal he held the ball right by his ear. In gb, the coaches got him to lower his release point and lok what happened. Point is at 21,you get bigger and stronger. Brady didn't even have a nfl arm coming out.

I know these discussions stem from my evaluation of bridgewater. I thought he was the best pro prospect as a sophmore. I feel good about what I watch on him as a qb talent. Not to mention,unlike a lot of these spread,bubble screen qbs, he comes to the los with 3 plays. His fbi is off the charts and that will be the lure of the next texans head coach.
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Id argue with you all day on his ball velocity. Do you remember the knock on peyton arm vs leaf? Peytons ball wobble a lot was the word vs the guy who can throw it through the car wash and not get wet. Phil simms said luck can't really drive the ball and can't make all the throws. Rodgers, go read his reports and the stigma of benefitting from the tedford touch. He always had a nfl arm,but in cal he held the ball right by his ear. In gb, the coaches got him to lower his release point and lok what happened. Point is at 21,you get bigger and stronger. Brady didn't even have a nfl arm coming out.

I know these discussions stem from my evaluation of bridgewater. I thought he was the best pro prospect as a sophmore. I feel good about what I watch on him as a qb talent. Not to mention,unlike a lot of these spread,bubble screen qbs, he comes to the los with 3 plays. His fbi is off the charts and that will be the lure of the next texans head coach.
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Id argue with you all day on his ball velocity. Do you remember the knock on peyton arm vs leaf? Peytons ball wobble a lot was the word vs the guy who can throw it through the car wash and not get wet. Phil simms said luck can't really drive the ball and can't make all the throws. Rodgers, go read his reports and the stigma of benefitting from the tedford touch. He always had a nfl arm,but in cal he held the ball right by his ear. In gb, the coaches got him to lower his release point and lok what happened. Point is at 21,you get bigger and stronger. Brady didn't even have a nfl arm coming out.

I know these discussions stem from my evaluation of bridgewater. I thought he was the best pro prospect as a sophmore. I feel good about what I watch on him as a qb talent. Not to mention,unlike a lot of these spread,bubble screen qbs, he comes to the los with 3 plays. His fbi is off the charts and that will be the lure of the next texans head coach.
and what about that Landry Jones floater?
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From what I've watched of Teddy Bridgewater...

He has more physical tools than David Garrard (referenced him due to his display of toughness,) and a mind for the game like Byron Leftwich. He has almost no NFL talent around him, except MAYBE his favorite receiver, #9. When they play big schools, he's shown he's belonged.

Is he a #1 pick?

If the Texans are holding that pick, they have no choice but to take him.
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and what about that Landry Jones floater?
What about it?
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From what I've watched of Teddy Bridgewater...

He has more physical tools than David Garrard (referenced him due to his display of toughness,) and a mind for the game like Byron Leftwich. He has almost no NFL talent around him, except MAYBE his favorite receiver, #9. When they play big schools, he's shown he's belonged.

Is he a #1 pick?

If the Texans are holding that pick, they have no choice but to take him.
I'm on board with the Bridgewater pick at #1, why are you trying to scare everyone else off by mentioning Garrard and Leftwich in the same sentence?
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I'm on board with the Bridgewater pick at #1, why are you trying to scare everyone else off by mentioning Garrard and Leftwich in the same sentence?
You don't know Dex's posting history very well do you?
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Ive seen enough to know Teddy is ready for the NFL. He has an above average throwing motion. He is athletic enough to keep plays alive with his legs, but doesnt resort to running it whenever there is pressure as he keeps his eyes downfield. He is a great example of a hybrid QB who has a nice blend of pocket passer skills and athleticism.

The Texans would be wise to take Bridgewater who can compete for the starting job against Keenum, then come back in round 2 and grab an offenseive lineman.
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Ive seen enough to know Teddy is ready for the NFL. He has an above average throwing motion. He is athletic enough to keep plays alive with his legs, but doesnt resort to running it whenever there is pressure as he keeps his eyes downfield. He is a great example of a hybrid QB who has a nice blend of pocket passer skills and athleticism.

The Texans would be wise to take Bridgewater who can compete for the starting job against Keenum, then come back in round 2 and grab an offenseive lineman.
I agree with you but have one question in regards to Tackle position, what is your position on Brennan Williams, who when healthy is = to another 2nd rd OT prospect?
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I agree with you but have one question in regards to Tackle position, what is your position on Brennan Williams, who when healthy is = to another 2nd rd OT prospect?
I thought about that for awhile. There are some guard/tackle prospects out there that I think would be a good fit for either RT if BW does not come back healthy, and LG if he does come back healthy.
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I agree with you but have one question in regards to Tackle position, what is your position on Brennan Williams, who when healthy is = to another 2nd rd OT prospect?
Didn't Williams have microfracture surgery ?! He may never be the same after that ... I wouldn't count on him ever playing a down , if he does good but I just wouldn't count on it.

I think you have to upgrade the RT and LG spots one way or another - Draft or FA.
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I agree with you but have one question in regards to Tackle position, what is your position on Brennan Williams, who when healthy is = to another 2nd rd OT prospect?
CnD has been warning against Williams ever playing well after a microfracture surgery.
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I would've never taken Williams to be a tackle. Dude has guard written all over him.
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Didn't Williams have microfracture surgery ?! He may never be the same after that ... I wouldn't count on him ever playing a down , if he does good but I just wouldn't count on it.

I think you have to upgrade the RT and LG spots one way or another - Draft or FA.
RT will be upgraded next year regardless because, whoever the new coach may be, he certainly won't be starting Derek Newton.
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RT will be upgraded next year regardless because, whoever the new coach may be, he certainly won't be starting Derek Newton.
If our new coach starts Derek Newton at RT, I'm going to laugh.

It will be the maniacal, hysterical laugh of someone losing their tenuous grip on sanity but I will laugh.
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If our new coach starts Derek Newton at RT, I'm going to laugh.

It will be the maniacal, hysterical laugh of someone losing their tenuous grip on sanity but I will laugh.
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RT will be upgraded next year regardless because, whoever the new coach may be, he certainly won't be starting Derek Newton.
Ryan Harris hasn't been much of an upgrade. Just saying, it could get worse.
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Ryan Harris hasn't been much of an upgrade. Just saying, it could get worse.
If Newton is not the starter next year then I don't see any way it could get worse. There was a thread a few days ago with profootball focus rankings for the Texans offense. IIRC, Newton was 74th out of 78 OT's. Harris was 43rd.

Harris is an average to slightly below average starting RT. Newton is an outright bottom of the league RT. We could sign a vet off the street next year to play RT and, while he may not play well, he can't be worse.
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I'm not sure that Teddy Bridgewater will be as good an NFL QB as Geno Smith.

......Teddy Bridgewater, 6'3" 205.....................Geno Smith, 6'2" 218

Pass Yards: 9370..........................................11,6 62
TDs:..........69.................................. ............98
INTs...........24................................. .............21
RAT:..........169.7............................... ............163.9
Comp. %:....70.2%....................................... ..71.2%
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......Teddy Bridgewater, 6'3" 205.....................Geno Smith, 6'2" 218

Pass Yards: 9370..........................................11,6 62
TDs:..........69.................................. ............98
INTs...........24................................. .............21
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Comp. %:....70.2%....................................... ..71.2%
Again, completely different systems.
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