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Old 12-09-2013   #21
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He'll probably still get drafted fairly high, but hopefully not by the Texans. If we could pick him up in the 4th round or later I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him that way.
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He'll probably still get drafted fairly high, but hopefully not by the Texans. If we could pick him up in the 4th round or later I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him that way.
4th round? You kidding me? He has 1st round Dallas Jerry's written all over him.
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4th round? You kidding me? He has 1st round Dallas Jerry's written all over him.
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That rubs me the wrong way.
If a guy won't run through a brick wall for his college teammates I question his heart.

Wicked talent + no heart = risky pick.
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Man, there is so much bad press about this dude from his coaching staff, his school.
Please provide links to this.
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Man, there is so much bad press about this dude from his coaching staff, his school, and other media outlets all over the place.
Yes, from many credible sources including:
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Yeah , we're just making this sh!t up cause we want a QB bust with the #1 pick ....
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It's now just silly for anyone to think the Texans will still draft Clowney with the type of red flags he has. How many players have we seen who have all the talent but don't have it between the ears? It happens every year. Throw in that he has an entourage and got caught going 110. I think it's a lock that Houston doesn't take him especially after the behavioral cuts the Texans had to make this season.
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Who was that ?

The Texans kept parading Walter out there to block . Besides Jacoby did ok once he left .
who remembers all the stories about keshawn martin, lestar jean, and devier posey learning from andre? dwight jones will come here and do well because andre will set him straight. jerome mathis. david anderson. jacoby. andre davis. kevin walter. eric moulds.
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It's now just silly for anyone to think the Texans will still draft Clowney with the type of red flags he has. How many players have we seen who have all the talent but don't have it between the ears? It happens every year. Throw in that he has an entourage and got caught going 110. I think it's a lock that Houston doesn't take him especially after the behavioral cuts the Texans had to make this season.
You are probably right and I hope that you are. Depending on who the coach is though, things could possibly change. What if Mcnair hires a guy that doesn't want just boy scouts like Kubiak did? I doubt that would happen, but it's possible.
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You are probably right and I hope that you are. Depending on who the coach is though, things could possibly change. What if Mcnair hires a guy that doesn't want just boy scouts like Kubiak did? I doubt that would happen, but it's possible.
Its McNair who wants the boy scout image ...
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Its McNair who wants the boy scout image ...
Yep, which is why Clowney is off the board for us. Teddy is a good kid, and has zero character concerns. He will be the pick.
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Yep, which is why Clowney is off the board for us. Teddy is a good kid, and has zero character concerns. He will be the pick.
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Sad but true and hopefully when Bridgewater isn't as good as everybody thinks he is Rick gets fired for this decision. In half a decade or so.
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It's now just silly for anyone to think the Texans will still draft Clowney with the type of red flags he has. How many players have we seen who have all the talent but don't have it between the ears? It happens every year. Throw in that he has an entourage and got caught going 110. I think it's a lock that Houston doesn't take him especially after the behavioral cuts the Texans had to make this season.
This is total bull****. First off, speeding is a reason not to draft someone? And this entourage crap, where is it coming from? Someone, anyone please post a credible link that actually has detail about this subject. There is none. And Please find one public statement from any of his coaches about his so called worn out welcome.

And these so called front office men who have leaked this crap, how much you want to bet they are praying he falls to them?
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This is total bull****. First off, speeding is a reason not to draft someone? And this entourage crap, where is it coming from? Someone, anyone please post a credible link that actually has detail about this subject. There is none. And Please find one public statement from any of his coaches about his so called worn out welcome.

And these so called front office men who have leaked this crap, how much you want to bet they are praying he falls to them?

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Junior DE Jadeveon Clowney has "worn out his welcome" at South Carolina, according to Dan Pompei.
"It has been well documented that Clowney plays and practices only when he feels like it," Pompei writes. "Other red flags with Clowney, according to multiple front-office men, are his unusual family situation, his entourage, his inconsistent work ethic and the fact that he has worn out his welcome at South Carolina. Some suspect he is motivated strictly by money, and a big payday could leave him too satisfied." These are strong words, and we will likely hear a lot more about the monstrous defensive end throughout the draft process. This, however, is the first instance of Clowney's family and entourage being questioned. Dec 6 - 1:20 PM
Take from it what you will. I'm well aware of the credibility of the source. However, he didn't have a phenomenal year so I don't believe FO men are putting out these red flags to have him drop. I think these rumors are enough for the Texans to let someone else find out if he's worth it. In my worthless opinion, I think there's a good chance Clowney has some hood in him and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he gets popped with drugs or a firearm in the future.
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Take from it what you will. I'm well aware of the credibility of the source. However, he didn't have a phenomenal year so I don't believe FO men are putting out these red flags to have him drop. I think these rumors are enough for the Texans to let someone else find out if he's worth it. In my worthless opinion, I think there's a good chance Clowney has some hood in him and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he gets popped with drugs or a firearm in the future.
You should tell us how he's lazy and shiftless, or 'too hip-hop.'
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You should tell us how he's lazy and shiftless, or 'too hip-hop.'
I find it hilarious that we see players get in trouble every year because they can't get away from the hood or their childhood friends/bad-influencing family members but yet so many on here are willing to roll the dice with the 1st pick on Clowney. Why even risk it? If he was such a good kid or hard worker, you wouldn't be seeing multiple sites talking about his red flags.
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I find it hilarious that we see players get in trouble every year because they can't get away from the hood or their childhood friends/bad-influencing family members but yet so many on here are willing to roll the dice with the 1st pick on Clowney. Why even risk it? If he was such a good kid or hard worker, you wouldn't be seeing multiple sites talking about his red flags.
I see a lot of people parroting what they read without a good source and clutching their collective pearls rather than watch the actual tape, and it appears to be no different here.
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I see a lot of people parroting what they read without a good source and clutching their collective pearls rather than watch the actual tape, and it appears to be no different here.
You mean the tape that shows several games where he is ineffective and not playing nearly as hard as he can? His numbers aren't great and he has not had that great of a season. Amazing you would completely blow off so many red flags that have been out there from several sources on top of that. Sounds like the only tape you have watched was the tapes of ESPN fondeling over him at the beginning of the season. He won't ever be a Texan anyway. I'm certain of it at this point.
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