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Old 12-07-2013   #281
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Gibbs not only had full control of the O Line but the running game as well and that includes his Blocking TE and FB. That's always been a part of his contract where ever he has coached in the NFL and also the reason he left Seattle so quickly after signing on.
You can keep saying it without substantiation and it still won't make it true. It is your reading between the lines. Provide some proof he had that in his contract in Houston and we can lay the issue to rest.

Leach & Dreessen came before Gibbs.

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I just started a post quoting your list and giving my own brief evaluation of all of these guys but they all started looking the same. I either thought they all were lame at best or sucked at worst with the following exceptions.

2. Chucky- I don't think he'll interview either. This job isn't glamorous enough.
Not buying that at all. From his comments and pattern this is perfect for him to believe he can come in tweak and have fast success.
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I just started a post quoting your list and giving my own brief evaluation of all of these guys but they all started looking the same. I either thought they all were lame at best or sucked at worst with the following exceptions.

1. Cowher- Too good to be true. That's why he won't even interview. He'll want his own personnel guy and that won't fly with Bob right now.

2. Chucky- I don't think he'll interview either. This job isn't glamorous enough.

3. Lovie- I'm not crazy about this one but he seems like the type of guy that Bob would go for. Don't know why he never could get the offense going in Chicago.

4. Del Rio- I could be talked into getting onboard with him. He had some pretty good years in Jacksonville....then some no so good.

5. Whiz- Reminds me too much of Kubiak at this point. Good results with a HOF QB, mediocre at best without one.

I really think he needs to open up the process to coordinators.
I've been seeing this a lot lately and I don't understand why. This team just had back-to-back AFC South titles, has decent talent on both sides of the ball and has a patient owner. What more can a Head Coach ask for coming to a new team?
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Leach & Dreessen came before Gibbs.
So Gibbs must have liked them, yes?
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So Gibbs must have liked them, yes?
Not true at all on Leach. The Texans made him the highest paid FB in the league before he got here. Even if he did like them it doesn't prove anything.

Where is that contract proof instead of trying to argue he must have liked Leach?
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Which doesn't mean the talent level sucks. McNair is dumping Kubiak because the talent level does not suck and therefore the coaching was sub-par. Ask the Chiefs if losing is always an indication of overall talent level sucking, or Indy.
I guess I didn't make my point clear. You just said what I meant, just more clearly. Thanks.

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Yes because both of those sorry ass teams beat us this season that means they are head and shoulders better than us.

Pfffffft.

If you truly think that both of those teams are better Teams and organizations then you are dead wrong. Just relax there, guy. We had an awful season and just canned our HC. If were betting on who is going farther next season between those three teams...I would call you a fool if you picked either of those two.
See above. I think we have the talent to compete with any team with a few shortcomings addressed. Some would say "many shortcomings" and there could be some merit there. It just depends on one's perspective. Glass 1/2 full or empty kinda thing.

Bottom line is I hope the braintrust, whoever the hell that is, knocks it outta the park. Going on record here that I don't believe Lovie Smith is that guy.

Most say it will never happen but I can't think of a better pilot for this vessel than David Shaw. Probably won't happen but that's the basket my eggs are in.
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McNair only dumped Kubiak because he kept playing Sloth over Keenum. Be realistic. If Kubes won another game or so and kept Keenum playing we would be looking at another 3 yrs of Kubiak most likely.
Once again you're stating your hater opinion as fact. It's merely your opinion and everyone has one. Some don't stink so badly. JMO
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Not buying that at all. From his comments and pattern this is perfect for him to believe he can come in tweak and have fast success.
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I've been seeing this a lot lately and I don't understand why. This team just had back-to-back AFC South titles, has decent talent on both sides of the ball and has a patient owner. What more can a Head Coach ask for coming to a new team?
Totally understand. My statement that this job isn't glamorous enough for him isn't based on anything more than a vibe. I just see Chucky as more of an entertainer now than a coach.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see him wanting to leave a climate controlled broadcast booth for the inferno that is Houston in August.
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Totally understand. My statement that this job isn't glamorous enough for him isn't based on anything more than a vibe. I just see Chucky as more of an entertainer now than a coach.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see him wanting to leave a climate controlled broadcast booth for the inferno that is Houston in August.
Money talks my friend. Not only that, but the guy currently lives in Tampa and is outside in those elements all the time. The weather is the last thing he'd be worried about in regards to Houston.
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Not true at all on Leach. The Texans made him the highest paid FB in the league before he got here. Even if he did like them it doesn't prove anything.

Where is that contract proof instead of trying to argue he must have liked Leach?
Go back and watch some of Kubiak's early 2008 PCs after Gibbs WAS hired. I think Gary discusses Gibbs role. Gibbs was hired as Assist head coach offense. Kyle Shanahan was hired as Offensive Coordinator about same time. If I remember correctly Kubiak talks about how Gibbs will be overseeing the offense and Shanahan. Also how in Denver when Kubiak was a new Coordinator Gibbs was always looking over his shoulder making sure Gary was getting it right. When I was living in Atlanta and Gibbs was hired there was a story or video discussing how Gibbs had full control of the running game and insisted on that as part of his contract or he didn't take the job. I'm not your research assistant you'll have do your own research. If not, it's Ripley's for you....Believe IT OR Not. There sure is a lot information that suggest it so, logic and between the lines as you like to say that suggest it so. If you choose to ignore the corroborating evidence so be it but here is the bottom line: I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

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Not true at all on Leach. The Texans made him the highest paid FB in the league before he got here. Even if he did like them it doesn't prove anything.

Where is that contract proof instead of trying to argue he must have liked Leach?
I think you're arguing here just to argue...outside of that your comment doesn't make much sense.......sometimes I think this message board is your playstation.
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Totally understand. My statement that this job isn't glamorous enough for him isn't based on anything more than a vibe. I just see Chucky as more of an entertainer now than a coach.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see him wanting to leave a climate controlled broadcast booth for the inferno that is Houston in August.
Ok, then wouldn't it be better just to say you don't think Gruden will return to coaching? Or do you think he would return to coach a more glamorous team?
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Ok, then wouldn't it be better just to say you don't think Gruden will return to coaching? Or do you think he would return to coach a more glamorous team?

I think Gruden is waiting and hoping to step into a situation like Houston if he is offered enough. He will also want final say on players. I think he wants to show again the genius he thinks he is.
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I almost cringe saying this, but does any think that Bob may have Saban on his list? He has NFL experience somewhat, pretty strong resume, and he may think that he can catch lightening in a bottle and get Belichek jr
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I almost cringe saying this, but does any think that Bob may have Saban on his list? He has NFL experience somewhat, pretty strong resume, and he may think that he can catch lightening in a bottle and get Belichek jr
I could of course be wrong but I don't believe Saban could be blasted outta his AL gig with all the C-4 at the US G'ment's disposal.

Now watch him hop on this gig.
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I'll be the first Aggie to say I don't want Mike Sherman.
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I'll be the first Aggie to say I don't want Mike Sherman.
What's wrong with Mike "Let's keep passing while we're leading and risk an INT" Sherman?
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What's wrong with Mike "Let's keep passing while we're leading and risk an INT" Sherman?
All those heartbreaking losses in 2011.
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I could of course be wrong but I don't believe Saban could be blasted outta his AL gig with all the C-4 at the US G'ment's disposal.

Now watch him hop on this gig.
I heard talk that UT was gonna offer him the moon + and that he would go. He' proven himself at Alabama and thought is that he's ready to go for a bigger stage. And more money of course. And what if he really wanted to erase the biggest stain on his legacy? Succeed where once he failed? Just a thought, and I hope that it is not even in the realm of possibility, but then again if you told me before the 2013 season that the Texans were going to be 2-11, I would have said no way and even bet any amount on that.. and if they were, their two wins would be against Jacksonville.
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in this case (pun intended) either cutler succeeds or implodes and we draft a QB the following year in a great year for QBs.

i wouldn't mind cutler his certainly not my first option but i don't think his has bad as some suggest
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Looks Like Shaw could be the guy which would be nice. It's John McLain reporting it so take it how you want but he is usually right on these things.


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