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Johnny Manziel 18 24.66%
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I believe those measurements are off.
So are the stats.
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Bridgewater = BUST; That is all!
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Manziel = nut BUSTed on by NFL defenders
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lol Johnny f is closer to 6'0 185
Lol no he's not
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Bridgewater is 3" taller, Johnny is 20 lbs heavier, that is all.
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lol Johnny f is closer to 6'0 185
I don't think so. I wanna say 5'11 200. Dude is actually pretty stocky.
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I don't think so. I wanna say 5'11 200. Dude is actually pretty stocky.
Every site I've seen shows Manziel at 5'11" 210 and Bridgewater at 6'3" 205.

Manziel has a thicker build ....


I still don't want either of them at #1. Hell , if we end up with it , I want to move out of #1. Just don't see a single player who's worthy of the distinction of the #1.
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Every site I've seen shows Manziel at 5'11" 210 and Bridgewater at 6'3" 205.

Manziel has a thicker build ....


I still don't want either of them at #1. Hell , if we end up with it , I want to move out of #1. Just don't see a single player who's worthy of the distinction of the #1.
Question then - if the Texans have TB rated #5 overall but feel they need a QB would you want them to trade down still?
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Manziel at 2-1 rather than Bridgewater at 1-1.
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On the other hand you have Teddy Bridgewater who toils in the crappy Big East but had a great Sugar Bowl game against a really good Florida Gators defense.

I would probably favor the bigger guy in Bridgewater, but it's not like Manziel doesn't have a bunch of good things in his favor.
Actuall JM weighs more than TB. # Gator O turnovers was the real story of Sugar Bowl outcome.

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I've seen more of Manziel but would prefer Bridgewater + he is a bit taller two inches and 20 lbs heavier. Will watch both more next season.
JM outweighs TB by almost 20 lbs.

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If we get a guy like Bevell I'm comfortable with Manziel, seeing as he could use him much like Seattle uses Wilson.
I like Bevell but McNair has already eliminated Darrell, no HC experience.
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Question then - if the Texans have TB rated #5 overall but feel they need a QB would you want them to trade down still?
I'd be much more comfortable taking him after a trade down scenario pending fair compensation. That compensation reduces the risk.
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btw take my measurements with a grain of salt as it is spitballing from having seen him a couple times on test days.
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btw take my measurements with a grain of salt as it is spitballing from having seen him a couple times on test days.
Sometimes those are more accurate than measurements by the colleges.
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Every site I've seen shows Manziel at 5'11" 210 and Bridgewater at 6'3" 205.

Manziel has a thicker build ....


I still don't want either of them at #1. Hell , if we end up with it , I want to move out of #1. Just don't see a single player who's worthy of the distinction of the #1.
Agree 100% Texans haven't gotten "luck"y when they have had the first round.
Clowney reminds me a lot of Mario. No motor. Hopefully we get somebody that gives us an RGIII type offer.
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Sometimes those are more accurate than measurements by the colleges.
Agreed. We all know that the major universities of higher learning staffed by some of the most brilliant people in the world have no idea how to use a measuring stick or weight scale, so many players shrink at the Combine it's rediculous.
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Manziel at 2-1 rather than Bridgewater at 1-1.
I see this take a QB in round 2-4, but really is that any gaurantee of an upgrade over what we already have. We already have mediocre quarterbacking, I don't see a 2nd, 3rd or 4th round QB really improving on that. If they aren't worth taking in the first round, are they really worth taking at all?

Here is a list of the current NFL starting QB's drafted outside the first round:
Brady - get him off the board early because he is a freak
Dalton - enjoy your first round losses
Romo - Inconsistency thy name is Romo
Keenum - meh
Flynn - 1 game wonder
Henne - great back-up
G. Smith -
McGloin - good enough to beat the Texans
Foles - small sample
Kapearnick - is he a good QB?
Wilson - Height probably put people off
Glennon - better than Freeman I guess
Clemens - hah
Fitzpatrick - got a contract off smashing a woeful Texans team back in the day.
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Simple enough question, say both of these players declare for the 2014 draft and neither suffer any major injuries. Obviously not seeing them play in 2013 will be a large variable in this question but who would you rather have. Just some physical traits for each player:

Johnny Manziel:
Height: 6-1 (ESPN.com)
Weight: 200lbs (ESPN.com)
YDS TD INT
3706 26 9


Teddy Bridgewater
Height: 6-3 (ESPN.com)
Weight: 213lbs (ESPN.com)
YDS TD INT
3718 27 8

Personally, I love watching Johnny Football play his college ball. As Lance Z described him, he's a 6 foot 200 pound whirling dervish of a QB who played behind probably the best O-line in football. On the other hand you have Teddy Bridgewater who toils in the crappy Big East but had a great Sugar Bowl game against a really good Florida Gators defense.

I would probably favor the bigger guy in Bridgewater, but it's not like Manziel doesn't have a bunch of good things in his favor.
The speed of Maziel's competition is far closer to NFL caliber than Bridgewater's. NFL speed is what separates the great from the merely good.
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Agreed. We all know that the major universities of higher learning staffed by some of the most brilliant people in the world have no idea how to use a measuring stick or weight scale, so many players shrink at the Combine it's rediculous.
Don't tell me that you think the major universities of higher learning staffed by some of the most brilliant people in the world don't lie through their teeth just as often as the "Real World." Where do you think the "Real World" learned how to lie without giving it a second thought?
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Don't tell me that you think the major universities of higher learning staffed by some of the most brilliant people in the world don't lie through their teeth just as often as the "Real World." Where do you think the "Real World" learned how to lie without giving it a second thought?
I'm almost a hundred percent sure Wolf was being intentionally tongue-in-cheek. You just restated what he rather facetiously implied.
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