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Old 12-07-2013   #41
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That just sounds insane. I cannot imagine a scenario where TB is not # 1. Nothing is 100% but this is about as close as it gets.
and yet Blake Bortles beat Teddy Bridgewater in Louisville no less with a Game Winning Drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsHSYdNv2C4

and Blake is going to a BCS Bowl Game and Teddy is not.
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...there are NFL teams that think that Bortles would be the #1 QB in this year's NFL Draft. Where have I heard that before? Not sure where Danny is getting his information?????
Mel Kiper and Todd McShay.
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and yet Blake Bortles beat Teddy Bridgewater in Louisville no less with a Game Winning Drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsHSYdNv2C4

and Blake is going to a BCS Bowl Game and Teddy is not.
Would you consider Dylan Thompson to be a better NFL prospect than Bortles? After all, South Carolina did beat UCF on their own field.

And didn't Teddy win a BCS game already?..
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and yet Blake Bortles beat Teddy Bridgewater in Louisville no less with a Game Winning Drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsHSYdNv2C4

and Blake is going to a BCS Bowl Game and Teddy is not.
You realize John Elway never went to a bowl game right? Teams go to bowls, not players. His team was 5-6 his last season. They had a losing record with him as QB.
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You realize John Elway never went to a bowl game right?
Yeah, but that was somehow Kubiak's fault.
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You realize John Elway never went to a bowl game right? Teams go to bowls, not players. His team was 5-6 his last season. They had a losing record with him as QB.
I also understand (realize) that Teddy Bridgewater is no John Elway. The next 30 yd pass Bridgewater throws on a rope will be the first 30 yd pass Bridgewater throws on a rope,
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and yet Blake Bortles beat Teddy Bridgewater in Louisville no less with a Game Winning Drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsHSYdNv2C4

and Blake is going to a BCS Bowl Game and Teddy is not.
must be taken in the context of team concept, meaning all that sounds good but really not all on Teddy, only so much one player can accomplish given tools supporting his. watching Bortles right now. great developmental QB prospect, reminds me of Flacco coming out of Delaware. Has the size/mobility, strong arm but still learning position. Maybe if Keenum was more established & Texans could confidently head into next season with new coach/case as starter bringing in a plus talent to develop like Bortles would work but that seems a bit of a luxury now given circumstances.

It's very difficult to grade a QB into a specific draft slot range given teams propensity to reach for position, but if I'm stacking a big board & he declares early, could certainly place him in that #15#20 top prospect range.
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I also understand (realize) that Teddy Bridgewater is no John Elway. The next 30 yd pass Bridgewater throws on a rope will be the first 30 yd pass Bridgewater throws on a rope,
Which makes your criticism on team success look even sillier.
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must be taken in the context of team concept,
I do understand the context of team concept. Blake Bortles took his team to Louisville Kentucky and beat Teddy Bridgewater and his team on their home field. And Bortles runs more like Andrew Luck than Joe Flacco.
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Which makes your criticism on team success look even sillier.
silly me
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I do understand the context of team concept. Blake Bortles took his team to Louisville Kentucky and beat Teddy Bridgewater and his team on their home field. And Bortles runs more like Andrew Luck than Joe Flacco.
Bortles is no Andrew Luck. silly rabbit.
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and yet Blake Bortles beat Teddy Bridgewater in Louisville no less with a Game Winning Drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsHSYdNv2C4

and Blake is going to a BCS Bowl Game and Teddy is not.
This is how you judge QB's?
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Bortles is no Andrew Luck. silly rabbit.

Bortles, you're no Andrew Luck.
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and yet Blake Bortles beat Teddy Bridgewater in Louisville no less with a Game Winning Drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsHSYdNv2C4

and Blake is going to a BCS Bowl Game and Teddy is not.
You sorta walked into that one.

I based my QB pick on...

1. Throwing motion (TB stands tall, release point seems close to his ear. Bortles looks like hes throwing a shot-put sometimes)

2. Completion Percentage with huge yardage. Both are good, but Teddy has been 68.5 and 70.2 in the past 2 years. A big indication to me that he is ready for the NFL.

3. Turnovers. Bortles almost has double the INT's that Bridgewater has.
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You sorta walked into that one.

I based my QB pick on...

1. Throwing motion (TB stands tall, release point seems close to his ear. Bortles looks like hes throwing a shot-put sometimes)

2. Completion Percentage with huge yardage. Both are good, but Teddy has been 68.5 and 70.2 in the past 2 years. A big indication to me that he is ready for the NFL.

3. Turnovers. Bortles almost has double the INT's that Bridgewater has.
Walked in to what? Bortles INTs 17, Bridgewater INTs 24

3 of Bortles INTs this year came against Penn St and South Carolina, Bridgewater he hasn't played against this level of play this year.
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This is how you judge QB's?
# of last possession, game winning drives, 4th quarter come backs, YES, exactly how I judge QBs. How they perform in these situations is a high priority in my evaluation.
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Bortles is no Andrew Luck. silly rabbit.
And if you think Bortles RUNS more like Flacco than Andrew Luck, welcome to the silly club. Key word is RUNS here people. And just like that, right on cue, Blake Bortles RUNS for a TD.
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If the Texans have Bortles as their #1 QB in the draft would anybody have a problem with taking him #1 overall?
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and just like that Bortles runs for another TD, 20yds this time.
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If the Texans have Bortles as their #1 QB in the draft would anybody have a problem with taking him #1 overall?
Possibly.

Jerry Jones supposedly had a 1st round grade on a player that the rest of the league saw as a 2nd/3rd rounder. So he threw away value in selecting that player in that slot, imo.

If the Texans prefer Bortles and the rest of the league has Bridgewater concensus 1/1, then a good GM would trade down and add a pick. Because there would be at least one team that highly covets Bridgewater.

My concern is more not who they take, but who's making the selection. If they hire a DC as a head coach, does Rick Smith have the chops to choose the right guy? I think I'd rather have Kubiak doing that, but that's not an option.
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