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Old 12-06-2013   #101
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Whoever is hired should have nice hair like Kubiak.
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Old 12-06-2013   #102
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He's the only head coach in NCAA history to have a 100% graduation rate for senior players in a single year. The guy emphasizes being a warrior on the field and in the classroom, and he has pulled off some big wins since Harbaugh left (without Luck too). He's everything you could ask for in a coach as a human being and a leader, he's a great speaker, very well mannered, and really seems to care about his players. He runs a pro-style offense at Stanford, but how well he can compete at this level is TBD. I think he's a good option, but not my first pick. He is most definitely a Bob McNair kind of guy and will definitely be considered if he tells his agent to pursue it.
This seems like it to me, but I'm just a little hesitant to dip into college ranks without considering better options first.
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That's my point. It's college. Do you want Nick Saban coaching the Texans, too?
What's your point?

Is your argument that a college HC cannot be a successful NFL HC? There are plenty of examples that would refute that; i.e. Jimmy Johnson, Jim Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, etc.

Or is your argument that you believe David Shaw is a college HC that cannot be a successful HC? If so, you have done a poor job making it.
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Whoever is hired should have nice hair like Kubiak.
You definitely want Horton, then.
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I really hope McNair doesn't preclude himself from a guy like Horton; otherwise, the only one I'd want is a guy like Lovie.
Horton's defense allegedly restricts Watt: "Another coach that the Texans should pass on is Cleveland Browns defensive coordinator Ray Horton. He's been a top coaching candidate for years, but his brand of 3-4 defense is drastically different from Phillips'. Horton could possibly signal a huge decline for J.J. Watt, but making him more of a role player and not allowing him chance to shine."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...houston-texans
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What's your point?

Is your argument that a college HC cannot be a successful NFL HC? There are plenty of examples that would refute that; i.e. Jimmy Johnson, Jim Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, etc.

Or is your argument that you believe David Shaw is a college HC that cannot be a successful HC? If so, you have done a poor job making it.
And there's plenty of college guys who've sucked in the NFL. The list is probably just as large, if not more so.

As for your second point, I insinuated no such thing. I just think he's unproven and that there are more proven options out there. I don't know if he'll be successful, but it's chancy any time you take a guy from college. He could be Jimmy Johnson. He could also be Nick Saban.
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Horton's defense allegedly restricts Watt: "Another coach that the Texans should pass on is Cleveland Browns defensive coordinator Ray Horton. He's been a top coaching candidate for years, but his brand of 3-4 defense is drastically different from Phillips'. Horton could possibly signal a huge decline for J.J. Watt, but making him more of a role player and not allowing him chance to shine."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...houston-texans
I got worried for a moment and started to think I might be completely wrong, until I read the http://bleacherreport.com on the link and have decided to not only NOT click this link, but dismiss this argument altogether.
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Whoever we get MUST tailor their coaching to our strengths. Anyone that would implement anything that diminishes JJ Watt as the best defensive player in football, Andre Johnson, Arian Foster, Brian Cushing, etc is a non-starter.

We have some special players. Keep them special.
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Horton's defense allegedly restricts Watt: "Another coach that the Texans should pass on is Cleveland Browns defensive coordinator Ray Horton. He's been a top coaching candidate for years, but his brand of 3-4 defense is drastically different from Phillips'. Horton could possibly signal a huge decline for J.J. Watt, but making him more of a role player and not allowing him chance to shine."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...houston-texans
I doubt someone like Horton would see what Watt is capable and think that he should rush the passer less. Frankly, nothing guarantees that wouldn't happen with another coach, and I'd rather a guy with a proven track record like Horton.

EDIT: Also, Bleacher Report, dude.
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Someone explain to me the reasoning behind Shaw. I see quite a bit of potential but he has the same "talented OC" background that Kubiak had... and you tell me how that worked out. I'm not saying he isn't a good coach, but doesn't he seem a little unproven?
Shaw was assistant coach at Raiders, Ravens and Eagles.
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You definitely want Horton, then.
Horton cut his hair. I can't help but think the Iverson look was hurting him in HC interviews over the offseason.
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Horton cut his hair. I can't help but think the Iverson look was hurting him in HC interviews over the offseason.
I like his cut hair look, but that's me. If he comes in and gets us a Superbowl then I'LL get cornrows. >_>

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Here's a name that you'll love: Mike Shanahan.

Clayton on ESPN said that if the Redskins fire him, he would move to the top of the Texans list.

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I am going to have to disagree with you. It's:

HELL NO!!!!!!
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Shaw was assistant coach at Raiders, Ravens and Eagles.
And that's why I see potential there. He seems like a great offensive guy, coached QBs and WRs while he was an assistant. But my point still stands, there are more proven guys out there. I like Shaw but he is not my first choice.
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That's my point. It's college. Do you want Nick Saban coaching the Texans, too?
Saban had minimal NFL experience. Shaw has mainly NFL experience plus grew up in NFL locker rooms. Not the same situation.
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Saban had minimal NFL experience. Shaw has mainly NFL experience plus grew up in NFL locker rooms. Not the same situation.
Fair enough. That's true.
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Whisenhunt's wiki page, for anyone interested.
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I like his cut hair look, but that's me. If he comes in and gets us a Superbowl then I'LL get cornrows. >_>

EDIT: This is what we're referring to.
Here's a current picture of him.



It kills me that we're talking about a candidate's hair, but we all know that McNair would never hire a guy that doesn't have a conventional hairstyle. I'm guessing Rob Ryan will get zero mentions as well.
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Whisenhunt's wiki page, for anyone interested.
Wisenhunt as an OC would be great, maybe a great HC too, but he has a pretty bad track record for finding QBs in the NFL. If we had a QB, I'd be happy to get him, but we don't. Maybe he can get his guy with a high draft pick, but I kind of doubt it.
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