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Old 11-25-2013   #81
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Interesting piece about firing head coaches in midseason that ran on nfl.com a year ago.

It's happened 22 times from 2000 through 2012. In only three years - 2002, '06 and '12 - were there no firings. And in two seasons, 2010 and '11, it happened seven times. So, obviously, these days owners are less reluctant to pull the plug:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...decisionmakers

Given all this, and that no coaches were fired during last season, the law of averages is that it will happen at least once this year. And probably in Houston, Atlanta or Minnesota. Winning two straight might save Schiano in Tampa, and being a first-year coach will get Bradley a pass in Jacksonville - even if he loses to the Texans next week.
I have to say as one who wants to se Kubiak gone, This is not gonna happen. The biggest reason is that it is just too out of character for McNair. If he decides to fire Kubiak, he will wait till the end of the season. That is his M. O. A person's character is not going to suddenly change. McNair will will follow the path that he feels comfortable with and that would be to let Kubiak finish the season, if firing him is his intent.
I am not sure , however that Kubiak will get canned. As a matter of my opinion, I can see more reasons for McNair to keep him than I can see reasons to let him go.
a. He is very fond of Kubiak- almost a father-son thing
b. Kubiak had that mini-stroke and was incapacitated and a man like McNair would fel like he was kicking a man while he was down to fire him. That is not happening. You don't be cruel to incapacitated people. Those are the people you are the most charitable to.
c. In regards to the stroke: McNair may feel that the stroke cut Kubiak down just as he and the team were about to get their feet under them; therefore Kubiak needs another year while healthy to have a real chance.
d. Team injuries: Even though I think this is a sorry excuse for a total team breakdown, I'm not so sure McNair doesn't give Gary a pass based on the unforeseeable consequences of injuries
e. Who knew that Schaub would totally break down.
f. Kubiak DID after all take this team to two consecutive seasons with play-off appearences. NcNair may se this year as an anomoly, and give Kubes a chance.
g. Kubiak can't go on the field and play the game for these guys, the team has to execute. Not his fault that they don't.
H. We are on the right track
There are probably other reasons I have left out, but my feeling is that McNair gives him one more year regardless of W-L record
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I wonder if rick smith is searching for HC candidates.
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I wonder if rick smith is searching for HC candidates.
I would if I were him. If he can come up with great options and sell why they could get us right back to the playoffs it might save his job. I don't think there is a thing Kubiak could do to keep him and most of his staff employed by the Texans after this season, but Smith is still on the bubble IMO. At least I think he is in the mind of Bob McNair.

I really don't see a firing during the season. Most fans know it's coming after the season; the players know it's coming. Finish the year and find the guy that will get us a Lombardi. Or two. Three?
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Firing a coach midseason only makes since if the team still had a shot to accomplish something and firing the coach helps accomplish that. When you are in the situation that we are in, you need to let the coaches and players own up to what have built.
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Firing a coach midseason only makes since if the team still had a shot to accomplish something and firing the coach helps accomplish that...
That would be incorrect.

Firing Kubes now makes perfect sense.

Why deny - and prolong - the obvious?
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That would be incorrect.

Firing Kubes now makes perfect sense.

Why deny - and prolong - the obvious?
I guess we can add that it helps when the team is so undisciplined that you worry about total embarrassment.
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Yes, this definitely was an "extenuating circumstance."

I think McNair made the right move.

Now just let Smith go and I'll start to be confident in him to get good replacements.
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With three games left, all of which we will be underdogs and likely to lose, the timing of it seemed strange. But after losing twice in three weeks to the Jaguars I guess it was time to make a big move. The problem is Wade Phillips isn't going to do any better as head coach, with the current roster, than Kubiak did.
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It was absolutely the right move and I kept hoping he'd be let go in season because I didn't see McNair firing him in the off season when he had so many good reasons to do it now.
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Another plus to the Kubiak firing is Wade Phillips isn't going to pull Case Keenum from a game. So we've likely seen the last of Matt Schaub playing with the Texans.
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Congrats you guys. This was sorely needed. Now watch the team win out and foul up the draft.
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Honestly the thing that made me more upset with Kubiak was that when they kept showing Schaub in the sideline, it looked like he was always ready to go in, like if Kubiak asked him to keep his helmet on because he was about to give his boy another chance.
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Congrats you guys. This was sorely needed. Now watch the team win out and foul up the draft.
We can only hope.
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Congrats you guys. This was sorely needed. Now watch the team win out and foul up the draft.
this team has a history of winning once they are out of it. Oh the memories.
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