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Old 12-04-2013   #21
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Not really debatable. Capers developed neither a good O or D. The D at 15 for one season was the only unit he ever had in the top half of the league. Marciano was here the whole time and Capers hired an out of coaching bed and breakfast owner as OC.

Was that joe pendry? If so that guy was horrible. His super simplistic gameplan was brutal.
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Good for him. That's what he should be doing, particularly at this point in his career.

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It’s amazing what 12 years in the NFL can do to you,” Carr said. “You see a lot of things, you learn a lot, you grow as a father and husband and you learn some things are more important than going out and collecting a check, standing there and trying to be 100 percent into the deal.
I mean, in 12 years it's not like he ever grew as a QB. No sense in wasting anymore time on that little lark right?
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The Oline was not nearly as terrible as people make out. The change from the very mobile Carr to the sloth Schaub had the team go from 43 sacks to 22. Only RT changed going from Wiegert to Winston.

Carr just across the board was not real committed to football and was aloof from the team. He rarely organized extra work or meetings with the WRs. He didn't socialize with his OL. He didn't stay at the facility and study tape with the coaches, WRs and QBs.
I also got the impression that the Fresno bunch wasn't very worldly . It was like they grew up in a commune with only their family .
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He always prioritized family. Any sane, normal, upstanding, moral person should encourage that from its members of society. But we football fans want our players and coaches to all but completely neglect their families for most of the year (and I did say we lol). It's a paradox, but hey, it is what it is.

Anyway, good for him.
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He always prioritized family. Any sane, normal, upstanding, moral person should encourage that from its members of society. But we football fans want our players and coaches to all but completely neglect their families for most of the year (and I did say we lol). It's a paradox, but hey, it is what it is.

Anyway, good for him.

Thats my concern if we draft Derek because like his brother he is already married with a kid, and I believe I heard the baby was in the hospital with some complications last summer.
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He always prioritized family. Any sane, normal, upstanding, moral person should encourage that from its members of society. But we football fans want our players and coaches to all but completely neglect their families for most of the year (and I did say we lol). It's a paradox, but hey, it is what it is.

Anyway, good for him.
Yep,

This is why I dont want the Texans drafting Derek Carr.

Is my thought process wrong?

BTW, Dont the Mannings have a strong family unit? The Matthews?

The family thing is just an excuse for David's lack of work ethic. My dad used to work 14 or more hrs a day and we had a strong family unit. David wouldn't work that hard even watching film at home. IMHO
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This is why I dont want the Texans drafting Derek Carr.

Is my thought process wrong?

BTW, Dont the Mannings have a strong family unit? The Matthews?

The family thing is just an excuse for David's lack of work ethic. My dad used to work 14 or more hrs a day and we had a strong family unit. David wouldn't work that hard even watching film at home. IMHO


How often did you get to see your dad and how long were you able to spend time with him given he worked 14+ hours a day?
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He always prioritized family. Any sane, normal, upstanding, moral person should encourage that from its members of society. But we football fans want our players and coaches to all but completely neglect their families for most of the year (and I did say we lol). It's a paradox, but hey, it is what it is.

Anyway, good for him.
I don't know, is it really too much to ask someone making $8M+ a year to put in 80-hour work weeks half of the year for 10 years of their life? I don't think so and I'd be more than happy to sign up for that kind of job.
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I don't know, is it really too much to ask someone making $8M+ a year to put in 80-hour work weeks half of the year for 10 years of their life? I don't think so and I'd be more than happy to sign up for that kind of job.


Well from the viewpoint of normal folks who put in 40+ hours a week for 30-90k of course not. The reality is though that 80 hour weeks suck and only a small portion of the population puts those kind of hours in and their work year certainly is longer than 6 months although Id imagine on reduced hours. Eriadoc makes a good point and a lot of these folks spend minimal time with their family during the season
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Kids grow up fast. I'd be there too so I think he's doing the right thing in lieu of all the money he has made. It's not like he's a working stiff and has to work or suffer financial hardship. David is sacking his career for a good and worthy cause. I wish his babies good luck fighting this awful disease.
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This is why I dont want the Texans drafting Derek Carr.
The Texans aren't drafting Derek Carr. That's a brand name McNair knows he can't sell in Houston.

David Carr made millions, went unscathed the last 5 or 6 years, and has a Super Bowl ring. Why wouldn't he leave the game to take care of his family? Kind of a no-brainer. I expect his brother to become a better QB, when all is said and done.
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He always prioritized family. Any sane, normal, upstanding, moral person should encourage that from its members of society. But we football fans want our players and coaches to all but completely neglect their families for most of the year (and I did say we lol). It's a paradox, but hey, it is what it is.

Anyway, good for him.
I can only speculate on these guys' relationship with their families, but I am not sure that any of the true superstar and grinders of sports are truly well balanced individuals in terms of work, life friend priority.
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He always prioritized family. Any sane, normal, upstanding, moral person should encourage that from its members of society. But we football fans want our players and coaches to all but completely neglect their families for most of the year (and I did say we lol). It's a paradox, but hey, it is what it is.

Anyway, good for him.
I agree with the exception that a QB is like an executive putting in long hours for big money . These guys are type A personalities , it's just as important as arm strength . Carr is a nice amiable guy and now he's where he should be .

The other side of the coin is Phillip Rivers who has seven kids . Rivers is ultra competitive and can't help but grind .
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He always prioritized family. Any sane, normal, upstanding, moral person should encourage that from its members of society. But we football fans want our players and coaches to all but completely neglect their families for most of the year (and I did say we lol). It's a paradox, but hey, it is what it is.

Anyway, good for him.
Two different scenarios - now and the beginning of his career. Now makes perfect sense to prioritize family. He's been paid $60 mil+ in his career. A mil means virtually nothing and his kid has extra needs over the ordinary. Good for him on this one.

But the start of his career was different. NFL careers are short. 95%+ are done by the time a player is 35. Just because God said it was ok to start using his pecker didn't mean he had to instantly start procreating like a rabbit. He could have easily fulfilled both by waiting a while on kids. People do it all the time.
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Two different scenarios - now and the beginning of his career. Now makes perfect sense to prioritize family. He's been paid $60 mil+ in his career. A mil means virtually nothing and his kid has extra needs over the ordinary. Good for him on this one.

But the start of his career was different. NFL careers are short. 95%+ are done by the time a player is 35. Just because God said it was ok to start using his pecker didn't mean he had to instantly start procreating like a rabbit. He could have easily fulfilled both by waiting a while on kids. People do it all the time.
His brother is on the same path .
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The other side of the coin is Phillip Rivers who has seven kids . Rivers is ultra competitive and can't help but grind .
It's a scary thought that Rivers procreated at all. The fact that he procreated this much is terrifying.

This means that there will be a lot of wedgies and swirlies to go around in their school district. If my kids were growing up with his kids, I'd move.
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How often did you get to see your dad and how long were you able to spend time with him given he worked 14+ hours a day?
Not as much as he are I would've liked.

But he understood work ethic and we have a close bond.

Why didn't David just show up for the games and not even practice more than he absolutely had too or watch film in his spare time? He should've spent that time with his family and forfited his paychecks.

When you sign up for certain jobs you know they are not 9-5 jobs and QB of an NFL team is one of those jobs. If you aren't willing to put in the time, you should seek out that 9-5 job so that you can spend more time with your family. If that's what's most important to you. David split it down the middle and ruined the Texans original foundation building process.

So no, to Derek Carr.
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