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Old 12-01-2013   #21
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Sumlin's agent is good at keeping his name out there whether he really would consider leaving A&M is anyones guess. It was like that at UH and it finally got to the point where he out priced UH's budget. Its just less likely it will happen at A&M because they have very deep pockets.
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That's my issue, I believe he has a plug and play offense, and they'll find a quarterback to run the system successfully. But if he continues with the type of defense he's brought so far, and it goes back to his time at UofH, they'll be also rans.
He doesn't run the defense. Mark Snyder does, and the defense held up pretty well against a solid Mizzou team. A&M just could not capitalize on the offensive side when they needed to. This last defensive performance probably would have won us the Alabama and Auburn games.

Our pass rushers are mostly freshmen, with the exception of Gavin Stansbury. Isaiah Golden, Justin Manning and Daeshon Hall are not yet conditioned to the point where they can compete with the big SEC O-lines. We have a 5 star pass rusher coming in and one of the best LBs in the state in Hoza Scott (if he meets academic standards). Jordan Mastrogiovanni will step up at LB next year and Darian Claiborne is easily one of the better LBs in the SEC and he's just a freshman.

Two years. My senior year A&M makes a run at the SEC title.
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He doesn't run the defense. Mark Snyder does, and the defense held up pretty well against a solid Mizzou team. A&M just could not capitalize on the offensive side when they needed to. This last defensive performance probably would have won us the Alabama and Auburn games.

Our pass rushers are mostly freshmen, with the exception of Gavin Stansbury. Isaiah Golden, Justin Manning and Daeshon Hall are not yet conditioned to the point where they can compete with the big SEC O-lines. We have a 5 star pass rusher coming in and one of the best LBs in the state in Hoza Scott (if he meets academic standards). Jordan Mastrogiovanni will step up at LB next year and Darian Claiborne is easily one of the better LBs in the SEC and he's just a freshman.

Two years. My senior year A&M makes a run at the SEC title.
I know who the head coach is, and I know what a crap defense he had at UofH... if he doesn't fix this hole, they will not have any success. The defense is the reason they are not in the top ten now, Manziel can only do so much, and next year we don't have him.
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I know who the head coach is, and I know what a crap defense he had at UofH... if he doesn't fix this hole, they will not have any success. The defense is the reason they are not in the top ten now, Manziel can only do so much, and next year we don't have him.
The defense will get better. Next year they should be much better. The freshmen will improve and this is a young, young defense. They've shown more signs of life recently than in the first half of the season.
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So, I heard USC was better than TAMU?
It is....the only real reason this happened, imo of course..is b/c the AD at USC has been non-commital and very secretive about whether or not he wants to keep Orgeron. I think if he goes ahead, puts it out there that the job will indeed be open after the season and and he wants to interview sumlin, i think his agent holds off the extension talk with A&M...at least until after talking with USC.

Plus too, i think he knows there's gonna be no shortage of capable candidates if he's willing to go as high as 6 million......

I personally think he's got his eye on someone from the NFL....someone with credibility that is.
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I'm hearing that USC's list is this, in order:

1. Chris Petersen, Boise St
2. James Franklin, Vanderbilt
3. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M
4. Ed Orgeron, interim

Preemptive strike by A&M to lock up Sumlin but it might not have even been necessary. Petersen might conceivably turn down the job due to family reasons but Franklin would jump at it if he really is the #2 option.
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I'm hearing that USC's list is this, in order:

1. Chris Petersen, Boise St
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3. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M
4. Ed Orgeron, interim

Preemptive strike by A&M to lock up Sumlin but it might not have even been necessary. Petersen might conceivably turn down the job due to family reasons but Franklin would jump at it if he really is the #2 option.
I've heard the same. After the UCLA game, it's basically Petersen and Franklin with Orgeron as a fallback.

I like Petersen, but I don't see the culture fit at USC. He'd be better off at Nebraska. Franklin would definitely jump at the job if offered.
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I'm hearing that USC's list is this, in order:

1. Chris Petersen, Boise St
2. James Franklin, Vanderbilt
3. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M
4. Ed Orgeron, interim

Preemptive strike by A&M to lock up Sumlin but it might not have even been necessary. Petersen might conceivably turn down the job due to family reasons but Franklin would jump at it if he really is the #2 option.
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Boise State's Chris Petersen has withdrawn from USC coaching search after mutual interest.
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Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe 5m

Boise State's Chris Petersen has withdrawn from USC coaching search after mutual interest.
Thanks for the update. I'm not surprised. It's gonna be tough to get him away from Boise with his family situation.
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Word is USC has hired Sarkasian from Washington
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So Bob McNair runs A&M too? Didn't know that...

Rewarding mediocrity is not the way to build a program. I can understand extending him, but 5 million a year, and he hasn't won a conference yet? C'mon man!
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Word is USC has hired Sarkasian from Washington
Yep that's what I've heard as well. Word is Petersen turned down the job despite some mutual interest (which texian alluded to earlier ITT) and USC turned to James Franklin (Vanderbilt). They told him he had to keep Ed Orgeron on the staff so he said no thanks. Sarkisian agreed to retain Orgeron so he got the job.

Just rumors I've heard so far, no links. Take it with a grain of salt.

EDIT: Apparently Sark isn't keeping Orgeron on staff and hiring him was a desperate move by USC to get someone in with USC ties after all of their top options turned them down.

Who knows what to believe...
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USC is still a good job but certainly not the top 2-5 destination anymore.
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So Bob McNair runs A&M too? Didn't know that...

Rewarding mediocrity is not the way to build a program. I can understand extending him, but 5 million a year, and he hasn't won a conference yet? C'mon man!
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BTW, how did you like Sumlin calling a TO with 2:00 left and then deciding to punt. I was like, the Ags deserve this guy. Cant do simple math and makes terrible decisions under pressure.

Sumlin is the college version of Gary. All offense, no defense in addition to the above.
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BTW, how did you like Sumlin calling a TO with 2:00 left and then deciding to punt. I was like, the Ags deserve this guy. Cant do simple math and makes terrible decisions under pressure.

Sumlin is the college version of Gary. All offense, no defense in addition to the above.
It was very Kubiak-esque. You have a 4th and 13, with JFF and Mike Evans, and you don't go for it? With our defense? C'mon man...
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It was very Kubiak-esque. You have a 4th and 13, with JFF and Mike Evans, and you don't go for it? With our defense? C'mon man...
This pissed me off to no end. Our defense won't be competitive until a year or two. I'm expecting a meh year next and a decent year after.
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USC is still a good job but certainly not the top 2-5 destination anymore.

Please rank the top 10 NCAA head coaching jobs
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Please rank the top 10 NCAA head coaching jobs
Alabama, Texas, LSU, Florida, Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Penn State, not in any specific order.
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Alabama, Texas, LSU, Florida, Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Penn State, not in any specific order.


I think it would actually take the number 3 spot and the others could slide down with Penn dropping off the list altogether. Im not sure why USC has fallen off the list of top coaching jobs on this forum but I dont think that is an overall opinion of those who follow cfb
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Yea Penn St over USC is a crazy thing to say right now.

USC is down but it's still a great job.
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