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Old 12-03-2013   #61
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Having an employee using their security clearance to bug the athletes does negatively affect the security agency since the Texans would find it intolerable unless they pay a hefty premium for the privilege. They have autograph sessions for those things at the proper time.
You'd have to show that someone "bugged" somebody.

You'd also need to show how this has led to the company losing business elsewhere / previously.

You'd also need to show that no other entities approached said athlete for pictures in the same setting.

You'd still be liable for claims if your existing policy suffered selective enforcement, when it regarded an off-duty employee, especially an hourly one.

"At will" is great, until you open your big mouth and say WHY the employee was let go.
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There is usually a restriction until you're out of uniform, not just finished with a shift.
I take it that you did not bother to read the entire thread before replying to my initial post? You would have clearly seen my thought process come to the realization about company policy and ultimately having no problem with it.
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You'd have to show that someone "bugged" somebody.

You'd also need to show how this has led to the company losing business elsewhere / previously.

You'd also need to show that no other entities approached said athlete for pictures in the same setting.

You'd still be liable for claims if your existing policy suffered selective enforcement, when it regarded an off-duty employee, especially an hourly one.

"At will" is great, until you open your big mouth and say WHY the employee was let go.

Are you in labor law? You seem to be pretty sure of yourself but I'm not sure I agree with your opinion
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I like this thread. It's amazing what the Holiday season will do us sometimes.
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Someone should have come back and said "I'll com-Pound my fist in your face", because although childish it would have been incredibly awesome. I'm disappointed in the insult comebacks on this site. Carry on.
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Someone should have come back and said "I'll com-Pound my fist in your face", because although childish it would have been incredibly awesome. I'm disappointed in the insult comebacks on this site. Carry on.
You had your chance.
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You had your chance.
I felt like I was late to the party, and I couldn't compete with dude's stunning good looks. I'm ugly and proud anyway.

Ok actually contributing to the topic at hand. As most have conferred, if it's company policy then there is no news. I worked security at Red Rocks amphitheater for a short stint in college many moons ago, the first rule of working there was - Don't talk to, F with, or even look strangely at the talent. It's very common in security companies to institute those rules. I work in A/V production now and sometimes do events with national acts, and it's basically an unwritten (sometimes actually written) rule among stagehands and production companies.
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It is my understanding that security and event staff personnel are under strict guidelines in regards to any association with celebrities they serve. I have heard that some celebrities don't want staff to make any eye contact or look the other way when they appear.

It seems unfair since that could be the only time am employee could get a picture or autograph if the celebrity was willing and didn't feel imposed upon. In this case, it appears that Brady had a bigger smile than the guard. BUT, those are the rules that are set up front for whatever reason, and grounds for termination if they broken.
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I've worked security at some very high dollar events with shaq, warren moon, and a dozen other celebrities you'd recognize (athletes, politicians, musicians, movie stars) , and there's a universal understanding in the industry that you don't poke and prod like a fan. If the celebrity wants to be sociable and strike up a conversation, cool. Be friendly. But you don't ask them for photos, autographs, or any other fan club bs. I have little doubt the 2 recently unemployed knew what they were risking. No sympathy here.
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Mcnair needs to hire these guys to be the GM, Kubiak would have already been fired.. and they know a good QB when they see him
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Was Schaub working the camera?
Couldn't have been

If it was, when Schaub tossed the camera back, the Supervisor would have intercepted it for "Pick Yer Fired"
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LOL! Sounds like a Yankee. Ignorant AND arrogant.

By the way, comPany is spelled with a P and I'm has an apostrophe smart guy.
Multi-quote function man. You can respond in one post! Makes it easier to follow conversation and reduces clutter.

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Only thing I'm mad at, is the dude didn't ask Brady to throw up the "H".
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Joel Williams, who was working security at Reliant Stadium, said he took his part-time job very seriously.

“When you are at your post and you’re doing your job, you’re not supposed to take pictures with anybody because your job is to secure that area,” Williams said Monday.

But after the game, Williams said he was ready to clock out when he had a chance run-in with Brady.

“I said, ‘Hey Tom Brady, good job, good game man.’ He looked at me and smiled,” Williams said. “He was very polite, very nice guy, humble. Sometimes I see players and say hello, and they just keep walking.”

The interaction led to a picture of the two posing together.

“Immediately after I took the picture, I got ran down by a supervisor,” Williams said. “They didn’t’ really give a reason, they said you know you’re wrong and you’re fired."

Williams’ co-worker Christopher Moore also took a picture with the Patriots star quarterback.

He wonders why they were targeted, especially since he says he has seen other employees do the same.

“What they say and what they practice are two different things,” Moore said, “What we see on a daily basis, whether it be Reliant or CSC employees, is them taking picture and asking for autographs from players.”

Contemporary Services Corporation, or CSC, sent KHOU 11 News this statement:

“It is strictly against CSC policy for its employees to request photos or autographs from players. CSC stands by its decision to terminate the two employees who violated this policy.”

However, Williams doesn’t believe he did anything wrong since he had completed his duties for the day.

“Throw away all the trash from the sidelines, escort all the people out, then we’re through.” Williams said.

In fact, the Texas South University graduate student said he will miss his part-time job.

“I loved the job, I loved interacting, being a part of it…just being on the field, just cool being a part of that.”
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Yeah. Not that big of a deal IMO. Already discussed here Doc. http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=103275
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Read the article. Two guards were employed by and fired by CSC not the Texans. The terminations have zero to do with the Texans org
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But a lot of people are going to think so. *sigh*
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Yeah. Not that big of a deal IMO. Already discussed here Doc. http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=103275

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I read the article, thank you. My initial comment still stands..........this incident generated by CSC (which is contracted by the Texans) will be and has certainly been seen as a Texans thingy outside of Houston................I am sure that the Texans, McNair and Houston will be clambering for as many such "minor" similar "positive" pieces as they can collect to go with all of the rest of the "major" humiliations they have managed to generate all by their lonesomes.
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