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Old 11-30-2013   #101
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A resurrection name which has not been brought up is Steve Mariucci. WCO guy, college QB, QB coach, OC and HC college and pro. Was rumored to be interested in the San Diego Chargers job last year. If McNair believes the two biggest problems this year are QB and injuries he could be seen by McNair as slipping in easily probably without replacing Wade.
I duno how wade keeps his job. He's been terrible in his calls as well as use of people. Wade should be the 2nd to go behind kubes.
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I duno how wade keeps his job. He's been terrible in his calls as well as use of people. Wade should be the 2nd to go behind kubes.
I dunno about that. We've had 2 good years out of his 3 on D. We also still lead the league in passing yards on D, which shows he's still doing something right while the team is falling apart around him. The offense has had way too many 3 and outs and the D gets exhausted in the 2nd half. I'd like to see him back off the man coverage some too, but I really don't think our D is the problem. Brady will make them look horrible Sunday, but what's Wade supposed to do about that without a healthy Cushing in the middle and an offense that packs it in every 2nd half of every game?

Another thing is nobody wanted JJ Watt, but Wade insisted on it, stood up, took the blame, and said, "This is a good football player." The rest is history.
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I duno how wade keeps his job. He's been terrible in his calls as well as use of people. Wade should be the 2nd to go behind kubes.
I am not advocating anything. I just think McNair will weigh dumping Wade a little more heavily than most coaching decisions.
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I dunno about that. We've had 2 good years out of his 3 on D. We also still lead the league in passing yards on D, which shows he's still doing something right while the team is falling apart around him. The offense has had way too many 3 and outs and the D gets exhausted in the 2nd half. I'd like to see him back off the man coverage some too, but I really don't think our D is the problem. Brady will make them look horrible Sunday, but what's Wade supposed to do about that without a healthy Cushing in the middle and an offense that packs it in every 2nd half of every game?

Another thing is nobody wanted JJ Watt, but Wade insisted on it, stood up, took the blame, and said, "This is a good football player." The rest is history.
A defensive coordinator needs to be able to hide talent deficiencies and schematically make things challenging for good quarterbacks. Wade does neither of those things, as you just indicated. In today's NFL, defenses can't just line up and physically beat offenses. They are too disadvantaged. Wade did a lot of good, but he is clearly limited and not what is needed to win championships.
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When I watched this offense all last year i was drooling over the thought of having a mobile, fast QB when Schaub would be Schaub and thought about how amazing we could be

It seems like everyones favorite QB on here is Bridgewater, so would you guys not believe that Kubiak could turn things around and make a run for a Super Bowl in the last year of his contract with a change at QB?
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I am not advocating anything. I just think McNair will weigh dumping Wade a little more heavily than most coaching decisions.
Agree, it was McNair's decision to hire Wade and it was Wade more than anyone else responsible for Bob' first visits to the playoffs. McNair also seems to have a soft spot for Marciano.
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A defensive coordinator needs to be able to hide talent deficiencies and schematically make things challenging for good quarterbacks. Wade does neither of those things, as you just indicated. In today's NFL, defenses can't just line up and physically beat offenses. They are too disadvantaged. Wade did a lot of good, but he is clearly limited and not what is needed to win championships.
Why does Wade not get the 10 years to get this thing built that you wanted Kubiak to have? Just curious.
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Wade has had plenty of head coaching gigs elsewhere and a proven track record of failure wherever he's gone as a head coach. Kubiak didn't.

Just my guess.
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Why does Wade not get the 10 years to get this thing built that you wanted Kubiak to have? Just curious.
He gets what he is given. It's not up to me.

I don't have optimism for Wade to grow into a coach that can win consistently for years and have multiple opportunities for championships. I was hopeful and saw signs that Kubiak was developing into a good head coach and was moving the team that direction. Despite that, I was fully prepared to move on from him in 2010 (hardly 10 years) and am certainly ready for it now (8 years, not 10)...

McNair was patient with Kubiak, believing similarly. McNair miscalculated. Why should I want him to repeat that mistake- simply because I was in agreement with his miscalculation earlier? As a parent, should I also encourage my children to repeat the same mistakes I made?
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Let's just say Gruden is our next head coach, for argument's sake. With that said, I'd like to see Wade stay as DC, if possible. I have no desire to see Wade as HC. I think if Wade had one good MLB on the field and somebody running a halfway successful offense (that would actually stay on the field some) that his D would look really good again.

He's also had 1 bad year out of 3 and could always be replaced after another year.
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Id be ok, not thrilled with wade staying. Wades defense needs talent. Plain and simple. He puts guys in tough situations and asks them to be better than the opponent. It's fine when you have the horses, but when you're running guys like merciless, reed, mays, sharpton, keo, earl Mitchell and Brice McCain out there as starters you're going to struggle.

This team needs a real edge pass rusher or two...a mlb, a real NT, and some playmakers in the secondary.
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A defensive coordinator needs to be able to hide talent deficiencies and schematically make things challenging for good quarterbacks. Wade does neither of those things, as you just indicated. In today's NFL, defenses can't just line up and physically beat offenses. They are too disadvantaged. Wade did a lot of good, but he is clearly limited and not what is needed to win championships.
Pretty strong answer I suppose. Assuming Kubiak is fired at the end of the season, are you going to want Mcnair to give a shorter leash to the next HC that gets hired after seeing how the unconditional patience in Kubiak backfired? I know that I will. I was with Kubiak though, especially after seeing what happened with Capers. After the Capers debacle I never understood why people wanted Kubiak to have all of this extra time that other coaches never seem to get. I really hopes this franchise learns from babying and coddling their coaches going forward.
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Kubiak will get another HC job and succeed. I imagine teams will battle for him, depending on what vacancies there are. I know the Broncos Pat Bowlen wants him back, but their coaching room is pretty full.

IMO, he's a top 5 OC. I think some organizational things went awry here, and that needs to be fixed.
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Kubiak will get another HC job and succeed.
I doubt it...no leadership and old, slow system. League evolving, Kubiak stuck in the 90's
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Kubiak will get another HC job and succeed. I imagine teams will battle for him, depending on what vacancies there are. I know the Broncos Pat Bowlen wants him back, but their coaching room is pretty full.

IMO, he's a top 5 OC. I think some organizational things went awry here, and that needs to be fixed.
Kubiak is done dude.
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I haven't seen a "In Kubes We Trust" siggy in a long time. As I recall, they were popular while he hovered around the .500 mark season after season.
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Rick Smith still believed....'till McNair told him to stop believing. It's all good now
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