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Old 11-25-2013   #41
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Their record says otherwise
You know who we look like? Like the Colts in the suck for Luck season. A team with plenty of talent that doesn`t get it done because of bad coaching and bad QB play - and I believe in both cases because the organisation wanted to tank to get a high pick.

Our HBs look good when healthy - so does FB. WR doesn`t look half bad. On O Line Brown and Myers can be spectacular although they haven`t done much this season. Brooks and Jones both looked good at times. Our top two TEs are definetly not the problem. So that is offense. QB, RG and RT are a problem - we might have a RT in Quizz or Williams who got hurt before the season.

On D our line looks good, we might upgrade NT. Our OLBs didn`t do much, our ILB look ok to great when Cushing is healthy. Our corners are alright, so are our safeties (Swearinger needs some experience, but Manning and also Keo don`t look bad).

Every team has holes - we could fix basically all our real holes with a great draft. QB early, RT and OLB shortly after, grab a NT, ILB and G when possible. We would still have real standouts at WR, HB, LT, both DEs, ILB and possibly Corner. That doesn`t look too bad.

Our team is just a mess this season - and I blame coaching and bad QB play, not the talent of our team. Next season with a new coach and if we get good draft picks we should go right next to the playoffs.
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Old 11-25-2013   #42
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Hogwash! We're not even close to KC talent-wise. KC was stacked across the board (up until both Hali and Houston went down). They only needed a plug and play QB and a good HC.

We, otoh, have needs across the board. QB, oline, ILB, OLB, CB, S, RB, etc.
I wonder if this would be your belief last year if you were a kc fan... Something tells me that you would be much more cynical.
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I wonder if this would be your belief last year if you were a kc fan... Something tells me that you would be much more cynical.
I'm fairly certain KC fans in the know knew what they had.
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One word..... DUH!!!!!!!
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We are the worst team in the NFL

We are a very talented team

We have horrible coaches
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The problem is our opponents are always really, really good right when they play us for that one day.

My honest belief at this point is that we need to replace the GM and entire coaching staff, except for possibly Wade & whoever he wants to keep that works under him. I'm not saying Wade has done well, but I don't see him as the problem or the solution. He is just a good DC trying to hold it together on a team that is falling apart around him.

Marciano has to go. Kubiak has just lost it, & needs to go, and Rick Smith is either part of the problem or possibly the ultimate cause of it. Everyone else I haven't mentioned yet is just part of Kube's staff that need to go out with him. Maybe Kubiak can get it right with another team, but he has blown it here at this point.
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The problem is our opponents are always really, really good right when they play us for that one day.

My honest belief at this point is that we need to replace the GM and entire coaching staff, except for possibly Wade & whoever he wants to keep that works under him. I'm not saying Wade has done well, but I don't see him as the problem or the solution. He is just a good DC trying to hold it together on a team that is falling apart around him.

Marciano has to go. Kubiak has just lost it, & needs to go, and Rick Smith is either part of the problem or possibly the ultimate cause of it. Everyone else I haven't mentioned yet is just part of Kube's staff that need to go out with him. Maybe Kubiak can get it right with another team, but he has blown it here at this point.
Wade's defense is following the trend. Blitz a lot and play man. Teams have figured out which matchups to exploit. He needs to go as well. He doesn't mix things up or have anything innovative to keep them off balance. He is "out coached" just as much as Kubiak is on the other side.
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Wade's defense is following the trend. Blitz a lot and play man. Teams have figured out which matchups to exploit. He needs to go as well. He doesn't mix things up or have anything innovative to keep them off balance. He is "out coached" just as much as Kubiak is on the other side.
I do agree with your first 3 sentences.
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Default Re: Are the Texans the worst team in NFL?

In all honesty, I do not believe we are the worst team in the NFL.

I know we are the worst-coached team in the NFL.

We are also the worst NFL team when it comes to realizing talent.

We are the most unlucky team in the NFL.
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It is really starting to seem like it. Kind of hard to believe with the talent on the team.
Most of the talent on this team is hype. Andre Johnson, Arian Foster, JJ Watt, Brian Cushing, Duane Brown are all pro talented athletes in the league outside of them it's hype. Everything in our secondary is overrated.
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Hogwash! We're not even close to KC talent-wise. KC was stacked across the board (up until both Hali and Houston went down). They only needed a plug and play QB and a good HC.

We, otoh, have needs across the board. QB, oline, ILB, OLB, CB, S, RB, etc.
At the beginning of the season

Rb- even
TE- Houston
WR- Houston
QB- even (pretty much the same guy)
Oline- Houston

Rush Ends- KC (although Houston had yet to emerge- Hali=Watt)
Dline- Houston

Secondary- KC

Coaching- KC

KC had the same guys last year, Moeaki (TE) got hurt, Charles (ACL), etc...Crennel is a version of Wade Phillips...GM/FO was a mess.....

Houston had continuity.



LBs- Houston
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I think they are a lot more talented than their record would lead you to believe.


Problem is they lack talent at the most key position on the field - QB and they also lack talent at three of the five OL spots.


Put an above average QB on this team and it's probably a 10 win team , fix the OL as well and they are as good as any team in the league.
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But I think Brooks is avg but getting better.
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