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Old 11-24-2013   #21
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#1 pick overall, sell it to the highest bidder for Bridgewater?
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#1 pick overall, sell it to the highest bidder for Bridgewater?
Agreed, trade down for a boat load of extra picks.
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Agreed, trade down for a boat load of extra picks.
If some team wants to offer up a war chest of picks I agree... my only issue is, teams usually only trade up for QBs.. and in this deep QB draft where the talent level doesn't really drop off from 1st to 2nd rounders in talent, is there really going to be a trading partner willing to trade up and offer a boat load of extra picks? In a draft that regardless of the depth, there is no clear cut cowbell. We don't even have a RG3 behind Andrew Luck that entices teams to hand over a farm.
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If some team wants to offer up a war chest of picks I agree... my only issue is, teams usually only trade up for QBs.. and in this deep QB draft where the talent level doesn't really drop off from 1st to 2nd rounders in talent, is there really going to be a trading partner willing to trade up and offer a boat load of extra picks? In a draft that regardless of the depth, there is no clear cut cowbell. We don't even have a RG3 behind Andrew Luck that entices teams to hand over a farm.
The rankings and opinions on next years QB prospects will change alot after the season is over. Bowl season, Senior Bowl, the Combine, and personal workouts will redefine the list of QB's and hopefully a couple of them will distinguish themselves and make someone want to trade up for them. I'm thinking Bridegwater, Hundley, and Mariota will garner us a trading partner provided we don't do something stupid like starting to win games.
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Agreed, trade down for a boat load of extra picks.
I'd love to move to #3-5 from #1 pending I could swap firsts , get a #2 this year and a #1 next year. Then you can have your choice of Bridgeclownmathiota.
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I'd love to move to #3-5 from #1 pending I could swap firsts , get a #2 this year and a #1 next year. Then you can have your choice of Bridgeclownmathiota.
And trade the 2013 picks to move up and get a better QB in 2014.

I would love to see Car#2 here

Rodger can run the new team too.
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In a draft that regardless of the depth, there is no clear cut cowbell.
Bridgewater is clearly regarded as the #1 QB among the scouting community.

Sure, he's not Andrew Luck, but how often do guys like Luck come out? Luck was the first slam dunk QB prospect since Peyton so once every 10-15 years?
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Bridgewater is clearly regarded as the #1 QB among the scouting community.

Sure, he's not Andrew Luck, but how often do guys like Luck come out? Luck was the first slam dunk QB prospect since Peyton so once every 10-15 years?
This. We need to stop looking for the next Peyton Manning (and who wants that playoff choker, anyway? ) and start looking for the next Rivers, Roethlisberger, etc. These are good-near elite QBs who can elevate their team's play. They don't have to be the next best HOFer passers but they are damn good and they are franchise QBs. That's what we need. A true 12 yr franchise QB.
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This. We need to stop looking for the next Peyton Manning (and who wants that playoff choker, anyway? ) and start looking for the next Schaub.
FIFY. And consider that we just finished arguing the last couple seasons whether Schaub was elite or at least good enough to get the team to the Super Bowl. Screw that. I want a guy that clearly has a Manning sort of ceiling. I don't believe you have to get that guy in the first round, and he'll need development, but I do not care to shoot for second tier.

Aim higher. Take BEST player available, even if it isn't a QB.
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And trade the 2013 picks to move up and get a better QB in 2014.

I would love to see Car#2 here

Rodger can run the new team too.
What if the Browns offered both their #1s for the 1st overall ?
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As I said in the other QB thread, I saw a couple of Fresno State games and came away very impressed with Derrick Carr.
I don't want to see the Texans draft him due to the history with his brother and potential fallout/distraction by some media and fans, but that guy looks like a hell of a QB. I think he's going to make a very good pro.
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Hey 2012champs... since I can't respond to you in the other thread..if they were doing their job, they would've just moved the thread. Something tells me if it didn't involve a "Carr", that thread would've simply been moved, not deleted altogether.

This season is OVER and as long as we have the #1 ovrl pick in the draft I don't see how any prospect is not relevant to the Texans as they now have the pick of the litter. It sure as hell beats the redundant threads that have been retreads for weeks on the Texans football forum.

Regardless though I'll admit I should've posted it here, but it should've been moved here as well. However this season is OVER.. all future discussion is not going to move on to who we should draft. Don't blame me or the people who now only care about that. Blame this sucktastic team, players, and franchise for saying SB or Bust.. and then letting the bottom fall out on route to the 1st pick in the freaking draft.

BTW, don't you ever get tired of calling yourself "2012champs".. we're now are coming off a horrible season heading into the 2014 football season, you're starting to look like some Uganda kid wearing a Buffalo Bills Super Bowl champions T-shirt.



You are falling apart a little bit. Im not sure why you would start melting down but you may need to take a break from the internet. FWIW I dont get tired of a user name, Im not sure that I care much if it is current or how it relates to the season. Id say you are looking like a teen that isnt getting their way.
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You are falling apart a little bit. Im not sure why you would start melting down but you may need to take a break from the internet. FWIW I dont get tired of a user name, Im not sure that I care much if it is current or how it relates to the season. Id say you are looking like a teen that isnt getting their way.
Thanks for being the wonderful moral compass that you are. (Sarcasm////)

Just remember BoB doesn't owe the fans anything. Do you still feel this way oh wise one?
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What if the Browns offered both their #1s for the 1st overall ?
Yes,

Then I do whatever it takes to be able to position myself to draft one of the top QB's in the 2015 draft. It's a higher end QB draft. This draft will have 1-2 QB's become 10 yr starters. I cant tell you which ones they will be.

Give me Hogan in 2015 over any QB in this draft.
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Thanks for being the wonderful moral compass that you are. (Sarcasm////)

Just remember BoB doesn't owe the fans anything. Do you still feel this way oh wise one?


That post had nothing to do with moral compass so Im not sure where you are going. Bob doesnt owe the fans anymore than having a team here. Thats what you've got, a full season of games and you arent owed some level of performance you think you are entitled to
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FIFY. And consider that we just finished arguing the last couple seasons whether Schaub was elite or at least good enough to get the team to the Super Bowl. Screw that. I want a guy that clearly has a Manning sort of ceiling. I don't believe you have to get that guy in the first round, and he'll need development, but I do not care to shoot for second tier.

Aim higher. Take BEST player available, even if it isn't a QB.
So you're down to wait another 10 years? Mannings don't come along often. Roethlisberger's got one more ring than Manning does, I'll tell you that.
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So you're down to wait another 10 years? Mannings don't come along often. Roethlisberger's got one more ring than Manning does, I'll tell you that.
I think he is saying he wants an elite prospect instead of a fixer-upper. They aren't a dime a dozen but it's not a decade wait between them.
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That post had nothing to do with moral compass so I'm not sure where you are going. Bob doesn't owe the fans anymore than having a team here. Thats what you've got, a full season of games and you aren't owed some level of performance you think you are entitled to
First, that post was full of crap.. and 2012, it will be two full years before we get the earliest chance to win a championship

Second, Bob owes the fans and consumers of his product (who according to Forbes has made his franchise one of the highest valued team in the league) a lot more than just serving up crap and just having a team here. If you're just a mindless paying customer that doesn't expect some "level of performance" than you are nothing, but a freaking sucker willing to throw away a dollar in his pocket...

BTW, anybody who named themselves "2012Champs" obviously felt like "some level of performance was entitled to them". If you didn't your name would be 2012Chumps
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Even if it happens, I'm not buying a Carr jersey ever.

This would also really make the Texans a joke if he did bust... Just sayin'.
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