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Old 11-18-2013   #41
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As much as I would like him as a coach I don't think Cowher is a reality. Didn't Joe Gibbs come back after a long time out and it was a complete disaster. At some point the game passes you by, especially if you aren't dealing with it day in and day out.
It's funny how for some the game passes them by while they are "retired" and doing other things. Even broadcasting.

We have a situation here where the game has passed our current staff by and they've been coaching the whole time. How bad are they really? Imagine if Kubiak took a couple of years off? Crazy.
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Am I the only one that keeps constantly refreshing the page hoping to see a "Kubiak fired" thread?
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You're not the only one. I keep doing it also.


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As much as I would like him as a coach I don't think Cowher is a reality. Didn't Joe Gibbs come back after a long time out and it was a complete disaster...
I don't think Cowher would come here. But not because the game has passed him by. Far from it. I think he simply likes living in New York. And I can't see his semi-rock-star girlfriend moving here.

Not sure about Gibbs' timeline, but Dick Vermeil came back after 16 years away and coached the Rams to a Super Bowl title (over the Titans)...
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Cowher is going to probably want full control to come out of retirement. I don't like that idea because he has never made personnel decisions before.
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I want Kubiak & Co. gone, but not in a way that tarnishes the franchise.

Two things I have never cared for in that regard: Firing a head coach after a playoff season, and firing a head coach during the middle of a season.

Cases can probably be made for both (like Dungy bing fired from Tampa), but, I'd say more often than not, it is a classless move by an owner. JMO
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Fire Gary today. Make Wade the interim, and let Dennison try
some of those supposedly "crazy ideas" he has with the offense.

Who knows, maybe they are "crazy" with Schaub, but not with
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Cowher is going to probably want full control to come out of retirement. I don't like that idea because he has never made personnel decisions before.
The first part is probably correct. The second part - that "he has never made personnel decisions before" - couldn't be more inaccurate.

He worked closely with the Colbert, and Donahoe before that, on draft day. It's well-documented that on some picks in which they were divided, he won out. Some worked out well, others didn't.

Second, any time a player was cut, added, promoted from the practice squad, etc., of course he was involved.

But all the Cowher talk is wishful thinking. It's unlikely he's coming here.
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My apology if this has already been posted:

McClain tweeted "he wouldn't be surprised" if Kubiak is fired tomorrow.

Of course, that's not the nearly the same as saying Kubiak will be fired tomorrow. But I have a feeling that that scoop is coming.

It would be the first midseason firing since 2011.
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My apology if this has already been posted:

McClain tweeted "he wouldn't be surprised" if Kubiak is fired tomorrow.

Of course, that's not the nearly the same as saying Kubiak will be fired tomorrow. But I have a feeling that that scoop is coming.

It would be the first midseason firing since 2011.
I'm not sure what that really accomplishes. I think Kubiak knows he is a dead man walking, but that doesn't seem like a good way to manage an organization.

McClain gets more things wrong than he does right. I hope that he's wrong on this one.
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Cowher is done coaching. He has discovered he doesn't need 100hr weeks and the grind...versus what he's found at CBS - which pays him handsomely as well.

There is no job in pro football that will bring him back, getting that ring was all he needed to be at peace with his decision.
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Who knows, maybe they are "crazy" with Schaub, but not with
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This is exactly the problem with firing a coach mid-season. You can't get your real coach for next year yet.

So you name a coordinator who you already know is not a good long term answer as interim (Wade, or Romeo Crennel). Team wins 4 of 5 games in December and then the pressure is crazy high that "you gotta make Wade / Romeo the permanent coach!" Then you are sunk for two more years before you can get a real head coach you want.

Better to let Gary ride down with the ship and take the rest of the staff with him.
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Cowher is done coaching...
I think his wife's diagnosis of cancer had a lot to do with why he left the Steelers when he did.

Now that he's been away for several years, I see him coaching again (but most likely only the Giants or Jets).

I did think it was interesting on today's CBS show when the subject turned to Jones/Garrett/Cowboys. He seemed to pick his words very carefully when talking about Jones. He was more restrained than usual.

It makes me wonder if he would be interested in the Cowboys job.
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I think his wife's diagnosis of cancer had a lot to do with why he left the Steelers when he did.

Now that he's been away for several years, I see him coaching again (but most likely only the Giants or Jets).

I did think it was interesting on today's CBS show when the subject turned to Jones/Garrett/Cowboys. He seemed to pick his words very carefully when talking about Jones. He was more restrained than usual.

It makes me wonder if he would be interested in the Cowboys job.
I thought the interim coach for Denver might be a good choice .
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I think his wife's diagnosis of cancer had a lot to do with why he left the Steelers when he did.

Now that he's been away for several years, I see him coaching again (but most likely only the Giants or Jets).

I did think it was interesting on today's CBS show when the subject turned to Jones/Garrett/Cowboys. He seemed to pick his words very carefully when talking about Jones. He was more restrained than usual.

It makes me wonder if he would be interested in the Cowboys job.
That plus he missed his kids a ton. He's on record saying how happy he was being around for their important milestones...
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Well, kids are grown, and two of the three are married. And I don't believe any of them live in NY. In fact, one is in London and one is in California.

So maybe McNair could entice him to come here. As a major Steeler fan, I'd love to see him clean up the Texans' mess.

The fans here deserve much better than what they're getting...
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