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Old 11-17-2013   #61
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We need a QB. If Keenum doesn't improve and Schaub continues his red zone woes... **** it. All in for Bridgewater.
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Jax in two of the next three games .... We'll see soon if they are all in for the #1 pick.
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I think while trying to get a QB is a good idea, the most pressing concern is the offensive line. You can draft a QB all you like, but if you put him in there with a weaker OL it's not going to help his case at all.

I'm all in for drafting a starting OLman, like Jake Matthews for the 1st pick. Shore up the offensive line so you can have better running room for Foster, and more time for [insert starting QB here].

Use the next few rounds to get some depth on defense. Linebacker in particular.
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starting sharpton and tarpinian is a joke.
Mosley is my pick.
Grab a RT in round 2-3 or trade back into the first.
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I think while trying to get a QB is a good idea, the most pressing concern is the offensive line. You can draft a QB all you like, but if you put him in there with a weaker OL it's not going to help his case at all.

I'm all in for drafting a starting OLman, like Jake Matthews for the 1st pick. Shore up the offensive line so you can have better running room for Foster, and more time for [insert starting QB here].

Use the next few rounds to get some depth on defense. Linebacker in particular.
You're right, I suppose. Keenum has me frustrated with his inability to pickup the blitz because I think he really can be the guy but if he can't throw to a hot route on a 6 man blitz we're not going to put points on the board. Jake Matthews in the first would do a lot to fix that.

However, how would you feel if we ended up with the #1 pick and got Bridgewater in the first, and Ogbuehi in the 2nd (assuming he comes out)? We shore up the RT position and land a franchise QB.
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You're right, I suppose. Keenum has me frustrated with his inability to pickup the blitz because I think he really can be the guy but if he can't throw to a hot route on a 6 man blitz we're not going to put points on the board. Jake Matthews in the first would do a lot to fix that.

However, how would you feel if we ended up with the #1 pick and got Bridgewater in the first, and Ogbuehi in the 2nd (assuming he comes out)? We shore up the RT position and land a franchise QB.
I have Johnny Texan in Rd 1 and Brandon Shreff OT, Iowa in Rd 2. Not a fan of Bridgewater, a bit frail and has a tendancy to float the ball on the deep pass, has a Landry Jones arm. The spells INT on the long ball.
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I have Johnny Texan in Rd 1 and Brandon Shreff OT, Iowa in Rd 2. Not a fan of Bridgewater, a bit frail and has a tendancy to float the ball on the deep pass, has a Landry Jones arm. The spells INT on the long ball.
Oh, the UH crowd here would lose their collective **** if this team drafted Johnny Manziel.
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Oh, the UH crowd here would lose their collective **** if this team drafted Johnny Manziel.
IMHO Johnny Texan will be a better QB than Wilson and Kapernick.
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I have Johnny Texan in Rd 1 and Brandon Shreff OT, Iowa in Rd 2. Not a fan of Bridgewater, a bit frail and has a tendancy to float the ball on the deep pass, has a Landry Jones arm. The spells INT on the long ball.
u cite frailty as a reason not to draft bridgewater, but then want to draft a guy who's barely 6 feet and a little over 200 lbs? Lol, ok.

And Folks not wanting manziel has next to nothing to do with u of h...

And manziel being better than wilson and kaepernick? Lol, based on what? 1 guy has been steady at the qb position since day one as a starter and has the 2nd highest qbr in the league behind only peyton manning....the other has already been to a SB. Pretty lofty expectations for a guy who hasnt even mastered passing the ball on the college level.
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u cite frailty as a reason not to draft bridgewater, but then want to draft a guy who's barely 6 feet and a little over 200 lbs? Lol, ok.

And Folks not wanting manziel has next to nothing to do with u of h...

And manziel being better than wilson and kaepernick? Lol, based on what? 1 guy has been steady at the qb position since day one as a starter and has the 2nd highest qbr in the league behind only peyton manning....the other has already been to a SB. Pretty lofty expectations for a guy who hasnt even mastered passing the ball on the college level.
Bridgewater is 6'3" 205 lbs vs Manziel 6'0" 212 lbs so YES TB is a bit frail in comparison, Bridgewater has narrow bony shoulders, could be numerous shoulder injuries in his TB's future. Those weak shoulders are probably why he floats the long ball.

If you're one who stereotypes because your small you will get injured often, the truth is 6'5" QBs get hurt about as often as 6'0" QBs. Unless your name is Bret Farve you're likely to miss games as an NFL QB due to injuries. Manziel is 2" taller than Wilson. Manziel as a freshman in the SEC threw for over 3000 yds and ran for over 1000 yds. Kaepernick was only able to accomplish this his Senior yr at Nevada in the WAC. Manziel also has a quicker release, quicker feet and sees the field better than Kaepernick or Wilson did in college. As a freshman and Soph Kaepernick was only able to complete 54% of his passes, Wilson 58%, Manziel over 70%.
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Bridgewater is 6'3" 205 lbs vs Manziel 6'0" 212 lbs so YES TB is a bit frail in comparison, Bridgewater has narrow bony shoulders, could be numerous shoulder injuries in his TB's future. Those weak shoulders are probably why he floats the long ball.

If you're one who stereotypes because your small you will get injured often, the truth is 6'5" QBs get hurt about as often as 6'0" QBs. Unless your name is Bret Farve you're likely to miss games as an NFL QB due to injuries. Manziel is 2" taller than Wilson. Manziel as a freshman in the SEC threw for over 3000 yds and ran for over 1000 yds. Kaepernick was only able to accomplish this his Senior yr at Nevada in the WAC. Manziel also has a quicker release, quicker feet and sees the field better than Kaepernick or Wilson did in college. As a freshman and Soph Kaepernick was only able to complete 54% of his passes, Wilson 58%, Manziel over 70%.
Yet, manziel is the one who's had his shoulder dinged up this year...

And lol at 7 pounds being the difference of frailty....Most NFL scouts dont seem to be bothered by TB's "frailty".

that 5" of height difference though
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Yet, manziel is the one who's had his shoulder dinged up this year...Unless your name is Bret Farve, chances are you will miss games playing QB due to injury. Oh and Manziel didn't miss a game because of the ding and yet Aaron Rodgers has missed several with his banged up shoulder and he's 6'3".

And lol at 7 pounds being the difference of frailty....Most NFL scouts dont seem to be bothered by TB's "frailty". how many NFL scouts have you talked with? You may be confusing media draftniks with NFL Scouts. I know the media talking heads are enamored with Bridgewater. Come draft day I don't expect NFL scouts to be as giddy about Bridgewater as the media

that 5" of height difference though
that is 3" and Bridgewater looks THIN (frail) and Manziel looks stout (not frail). I notice you stopped wanting to debate Manziel vs Kaepernick and Wilson college performances.
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that is 3" and Bridgewater looks THIN (frail) and Manziel looks stout (not frail). I notice you stopped wanting to debate Manziel vs Kaepernick and Wilson college performances.
And i noticed u didnt address manziel hurting his shoulder despite him having the more "stout" frame...but i digress..

I never engaged you on the stats thing b/c college performance means diddley poo in the nfl....even if manziel does play in the mighty SEC.

Furthermore, wilson and kaepernick have already proven they belong although kaepernick is looking shaky this year.

The only thing Manziel has had the chance to prove is that he can put up numbers in an offense where everyone who plays in it put up numbers.
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And i noticed u didnt address manziel hurting his shoulder despite him having the more "stout" frame...but i digress.. I did address it, check again, here is what I said .... "Oh and Manziel didn't miss a game because of the ding and yet Aaron Rodgers has missed several with his banged up shoulder and he's 6'3".

I never engaged you on the stats thing b/c college performance means diddley poo in the nfl....even if manziel does play in the mighty SEC. Those same college stats are what got Kaepernick and Wilson drafted.

Furthermore, wilson and kaepernick have already proven they belong although kaepernick is looking shaky this year. Furthermore, Johnny Texan will too.

The only thing Manziel has had the chance to prove is that he can put up numbers in an offense where everyone who plays in it put up numbers.
Beg to differ with you here bud, I would venture to say that Sumlin would be less than .500 if Johnny Texan has not been the Texas A&M QB. Clearly you don't like Johnny Texan. The only way Texas A&M beats Alabama in Tuscaloosa is JOHNNY TEXAN.
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Did I just read somebody call Manziel "stout?"

Seriously?
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Did I just read somebody call Manziel "stout?"

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Yep...manziel weighs 7 more lbs than bridgewater so that apparently makes him more stout and bridgewater frail...


Just leave it alone Texas Seminole....
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Did I just read somebody call Manziel "stout?"

Seriously?
For somebody who is 6' yes and compared to the tall skinny Bridgewater yes, he's stout. 6' 212 is not small. Manziel is in proportion to QBs who are 6'2" 225. Compared to JJ Watt, no, he's not stout.
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Yep...manziel weighs 7 more lbs than bridgewater so that apparently makes him more stout and bridgewater frail...


Just leave it alone Texas Seminole....
Bridgewater is 3" taller and 7 lbs lighter, that's NOT in proportion. Bridgewater looks like a tall skinny WR, Manziel looks like a big safety.
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The criticism on manzel is laughable. He has pretty much destroyed every opponent he's gone against. As a prospect he's not on the level of a rg3 or luck but he's not far behind.
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The criticism on manzel is laughable. He has pretty much destroyed every opponent he's gone against. As a prospect he's not on the level of a rg3 or luck but he's not far behind.
Manziel haters are up late tonight.....and speaking of Luck, Manziel might be the Texans best answer to Mr. Andrew Luck. Right now they don't have one.
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