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Old 11-17-2013   #121
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too bad the pic before didnt show left more....im convinced dre ran a curl....if it was zoomed out some youd prolly see him just squating down
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Where's Nitro when you need him .... Need someone to read Schaub's lips and tell us what he said in response to #80.
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the coaching staff cannot adjust to the blitz.

all out blitz coming???

empty the backfield and call for a long developing pass.
Sorry but failure to see the blitz coming is all on Case. Just like we fans see the jailbreak blitz coming Case damn sure should. Yet he fails time and again to check to the hot route and make them pay. He did it once against K.C. and has not since.

You want to know why Case got benched? That's it. I would bet a paycheck they go over how to recognize the blitzes - and what to do about it - in post-game film breakdown every Monday and come gametime Case still doesn't get it. To Kubiak, that's equivalent to a RB fumbling. Both mistakes will get you benched.
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Where's Nitro when you need him .... Need someone to read Schaub's lips and tell us what he said in response to #80.
Matt said: Oh, I'm sorry Andre but I've really sucked this year... really going back to last year... and I don't know why I was even in the game.

And then he made this face:
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Also, he should consider not quitting on his routes when the game is on the line... He did it twice in the red zone in the 4th quarter... Not to mention letting a TD get defended away because he tried to body catch it instead of grabbing it with his hands as he has been taught for the past 20 years of his football life.
Are you serious?

I'm at a loss for words when reading some people's posts.

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nfl.com has an article that says dre yelled at schaub earlier in the game when schaub missed him deep down field.....the 4th and goal just boiled the feud more
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lot of misinformation out there...lets clear dre right now



(on what happened on the last play of the game) I messed up Ill just put it like that. I messed up.

not an admittance of stopping on the route

(on the last play did Matt Schaub tell you that you messed up) No, I mean there was just words exchanged. You could see the frustration on his face, and the frustration on my face. Like I said Im not worried about that. I think you all are making a big deal about it. We talked about it its over. I have no problems with Matt weve played a lot of football together. We have a good relationship.

(on if its important to admit you messed up) I mean its part of it. I didnt do my part. I couldve made a play that would have had a different outcome.

no where in those words say dre stopped or ran the wrong route...its him saying matt sucks and you can blame me, i dont give a damn
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What I saw in the AJ play is a throw into triple coverage in which one defender stepped in front of AJs route. I don't see what AJ could have done differently, except maybe get absolutely smashed and still not catch the ball.
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Oh it's AJs fault Schaub failed on 4th and 7. You can't rag on a guy who has given everything he has to this team .
No, but it is his fault for not running the route, which, if you ask him, I'm sure he would admit should have happened.
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No, but it is his fault for not running the route, which, if you ask him, I'm sure he would admit should have happened.
wheres your proof dre didnt run the route
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What I saw in the AJ play is a throw into triple coverage in which one defender stepped in front of AJs route. I don't see what AJ could have done differently, except maybe get absolutely smashed and still not catch the ball.
Yeah, that's what I saw too. Even if Dre ran the right route, he's still triple covered and the ball was thrown directly to a defender.
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Yeah, that's what I saw too. Even if Dre ran the right route, he's still triple covered and the ball was thrown directly to a defender.
Ya, and I don't even think he ran the wrong route. I think he just quit running when he saw the defender in the air about to catch the ball. There was really nothing he could have done from what I saw.

But, you know, some people see what they want to see.
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so what does that tell you?

btw,

its the coaching staf particularly kubiak that needs to handle the blitz better.

You have to call plays that beat the blitz, not help.
Did you even watch the game? About 1/3 of the plays were bubble screens, WR screens, HB screens or TE screens
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Are you serious?

I'm at a loss for words when reading some people's posts.
AJ is a great player and a special athlete. What I can't understand is why people are so quick to blame everything on a lesser talent (Schaub, for instance), who has a great work ethic, attitude, and sacrifices for the team as well... even things that aren't within his control. Yet, when one of the most gifted humans on the earth fails to run his route on a game deciding play or fails to complete a catch for a TD earlier in the game because of poor technique, nobody wants to hold him accountable for it.

I know AJ is a better player than Matt Schaub and, if there was a way to chart it, AJ would be more responsible for more wins/successes than Schaub...

But, the energized hate and blame the fan base continues to focus on Schaub is outrageous and bizarre. Schaub has been a winner for the organization and has played a lot of good football. He has continued to perform to the best of his abilities but his play has slipped since his injury. His poor play contributed to a disappointing 2-4 start this season... Since he was benched, the Texans have continued to lose (0-4). Still, when he enters the game because Keenum is unable to handle some of the pressure packages in the second half, the crowd booed with so loud and so long that the offense had to go to a silent snap at home... Meanwhile, the same crowd caused no problems for the opposing, rookie QB.

The Texans are not 2-8 because of Matt Schaub. The defense has been brutal in the red zone and inconsistent throughout the year. The special teams has been an unmitigated disaster, and the offensive line has been terrible. None of that is Schaub's fault, nor should he be blamed for going into the game when the coach tells him to.
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the defense of schaub and gary on this board is insane....half of you are just brain dead......i need to go to sleep before i get hot headed and in trouble. good night gentlemen/ladies.
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You post really bad comments. Andre has already publicly stated he is just "playing out his contract". Think he wants to be here? Think his agent wont try to get him out? Wake up ...
Andre's response meant the question is irrelevant. He has four years left.

Watt has played in four playoff games in his 2.5 years in Houston. To claim he wants a trade is just you throwing a fit.

Your threads reflect some of the worst behavior of sports fandom. You advocate throwing ice at players and applauding their injuries, and you refer to a player's family in your rants. You don't know how to draw the line between your personal pride and entertainment. And here we have another thread produced by the same childish venting absent of any logical premise. People with football insight and supported arguments come here for interesting discussion, not to deal with unsupervised kids.
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wheres your proof dre didnt run the route
What route do you think he was running? Where is the "post and slow to a 50% trot" on the route tree?... By the way, it was man coverage. He was not hunting for a hole in the zone. Check the video. He did it on the earlier red zone drive also- on the same route.

How many times did Michael Irvin run a post into tight coverage but commit to getting across the corner back? Hundreds of times! Both times, if AJ ran the route with conviction, he would have had an opportunity to make the play (though neither appeared to be great throws)... Still, he needs to be where he is supposed to be. How many games have we won because AJ made a great, physical play in traffic? This could have been another one, maybe... but, he robbed himself of the opportunity.
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The line. The backs. The receivers. The defense. Now an All Pro and future HOFer Andre Johnson. It's always someone else's fault for you, dale.
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What route do you think he was running? Where is the "post and slow to a 50% trot" on the route tree?... By the way, it was man coverage. He was not hunting for a hole in the zone. Check the video. He did it on the earlier red zone drive also- on the same route.

How many times did Michael Irvin run a post into tight coverage but commit to getting across the corner back? Hundreds of times! Both times, if AJ ran the route with conviction, he would have had an opportunity to make the play (though neither appeared to be great throws)... Still, he needs to be where he is supposed to be. How many games have we won because AJ made a great, physical play in traffic? This could have been another one, maybe... but, he robbed himself of the opportunity.
dre looks like he ran a curl and when he turned matt was throwing the ball so dre tried to get there but couldnt.....dre is an all pro hof player who wants a super bowl, to suggest he stopped running is asinine and stupid. its much more logical to think matt threw a bad pass, especially since hes known for it AND his reps have been significantly reduced during the week....but hey blame our all pro wide out on giving up if it makes you feel better mr schaub
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