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Old 11-14-2013   #381
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Travis Johnson just said on 610 that Ed and wade didn't get along. He said that Ed didn't feel he was being used correctly and that wade's defensive play calling was suspect/too basic. TJ said wade only calls around 3 defensive plays all game.

Which is plausible since we play so much man.
I can believe that.

Which QB did we play this season that said something similar? That our defense was easy to figure out and didn't do anything to confuse them
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The Jets are paying him $400k from what I hear. He robbed us.
Is it robbery if we invite him into our house and give him the money?
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Is it wrong that I hope Ed Reed plays awesome thus making our FO and coaching staff look even worse than they already do?
I'm not certain our coaching staff can look worse.
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Is it wrong that I hope Ed Reed plays awesome thus making our FO and coaching staff look even worse than they already do?
I had the same thoughts. I hope Reed gets a pick six.
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I can believe that.
If Wade only makes 3 calls a game then there is 32 years of tape of him doing it. It shouldn't work for one year, one game or one half.

C'mon a little common sense - base, nickel and dime are 3 calls without any variation.

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Which QB did we play this season that said something similar? That our defense was easy to figure out and didn't do anything to confuse them
I believe you are thinking of a defensive player (Seahawks CB with the pick 6 iirc) talking about the offense.
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If Wade only makes 3 calls a game then there is 32 years of tape of him doing it. It shouldn't work for one year, one game or one half.

C'mon a little common sense - base, nickel and dime are 3 calls without any variation.
The defense we are lined up in is considered a package. The play that you call can be called from any package.

For instance. Man to man, cover 3, cover two. That can be balled from just about every package.

Of course there are some variations, but I think the point is that wade doesn't really have any exotic looks which ought to be a staple of a 34. There is likely not much we do to actually fool offenses or make them think twice about.

And for all wades success, he has a consistent track record of a good turnaround followed by not so good seasons.

I would ask that you use some common sense as well. You have a guy coming from a very good defensive team over the years who has made a living off if making qb's think twice about throwing towards him. There are guys who have talked about how simple wades defense is.

Maybe it's not 3 plays. That wasn't what was said anyways, it was "around three plays". I think the point was obvious...wades defense is simple...Ed wanted to do more things...wade didn't budge.
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I hear a lot of people knocking madden, but honestly, more people should probably play it. You can actually learn some things from playing football games these days.
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If Wade only makes 3 calls a game then there is 32 years of tape of him doing it. It shouldn't work for one year, one game or one half.

C'mon a little common sense - base, nickel and dime are 3 calls without any variation.



I believe you are thinking of a defensive player (Seahawks CB with the pick 6 iirc) talking about the offense.
I think the "3 calls" had a hint of sarcasm. At least that's the way I read. His scheme is basic and easily beat if the pass rush doesn't get home.

Wade's stubborn and old school. Good coaches/teams figure him out, but he refuses to make significant adjustments. Patriots being a perfect example
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Is it robbery if we invite him into our house and give him the money?
We didnt hand him money because we thought he looked homeless. We handed him money for a service.
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The defense we are lined up in is considered a package. The play that you call can be called from any package.
I knew someone would go there. We play multiple personnel packages within each as well and then all sorts of variations within on who is blitzing, who drops in coverage, cover schemes within each, etc. 3 plays or anything close is an absurd exaggeration no matter how you want to parse it out.

Also, showing exotic doesn't mean more complex than attempting to hide by showing the same thing and then running it differently. eg. Zone blitz is built on concealing the pass rush by bringing it from different positions from the same formation. Most games and in fact competitive endeavors I know of it is considered smart to hide your cards (hmmm, wonder why that is an expression?).
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I think the "3 calls" had a hint of sarcasm. At least that's the way I read. His scheme is basic and easily beat if the pass rush doesn't get home.

Wade's stubborn and old school. Good coaches/teams figure him out, but he refuses to make significant adjustments. Patriots being a perfect example
What scheme is not easy to beat if the pass rush is not effective?
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I knew someone would go there. We play multiple personnel packages within each as well and then all sorts of variations within on who is blitzing, who drops in coverage, cover schemes within each, etc. 3 plays or anything close is an absurd exaggeration no matter how you want to parse it out. .
What the hell are you talking about? What does that have to do with the plays called in?

All you are talking about is how responsibility changes depending on the personnel that is in. Which again you seem confused and think that has anything to do with the plays that are called other than wades choice of what he wNts to call with what personnel.

You are trying to use different packages as evidence that we are making a bunch of different calls and that is false evidence.
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Travis Johnson just said on 610 that Ed and wade didn't get along. He said that Ed didn't feel he was being used correctly and that wade's defensive play calling was suspect/too basic. TJ said wade only calls around 3 defensive plays all game.

Which is plausible since we play so much man.
Damn. I like Wade and I'm not going to slam his defense.

But the above news - if true - speaks volumes about some foundational problems with the coaching staff and front office.

You have one of the most respected defensive coordinators in the league. And now we are finding out that a player was basically forced on him. A player that he did not think fits his scheme. Wade will never come out and say it. He's a professional and team player.

But, it does make sense when it never looked like Reed belonged in this defense, both with limited range from his surgery and the way he was being implemented. Then read his words that go him into trouble. He was obviously not happy with being benched, but there was something else to it, like a dissatisfaction with both the coach and scheme.

Screw Reed and screw the Jets. I'm not going to root for either of them out of spite. I'm a Texans fan, regardless of the coaching staff, and I'm certainly not going to bandwagon some freakin' yankee team that I've never liked just to make some kind of statement. Screw that noise.
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I can believe that.

Which QB did we play this season that said something similar? That our defense was easy to figure out and didn't do anything to confuse them
All of them.
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I thought it was rivers

However infantry might be correct about sherman and the offense
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Quentin Demps is starting on one of the better defenses of the season.

I think it would be interesting if Reed is starting this week, or even next.

Lastly, how can someone be upset with a coaching staff allowing him to do whatever he wants to do? I can understand being upset that he was demoted, but that was totally in his power to control. All he had to do was make a play... instead, he continued to get hurdled.
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I dont know if this has been posted...but I'll leave this right here...
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Anyone who thinks we only call 3 plays a game on defense is an idiot.
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Is it robbery if we invite him into our house and give him the money?
It is if he conceals something that he knows would keep us from giving him that money. I lost all respect I had for the guy. Give me a guy with integrity like Pat Tillman had. Unfortunately we have world full of people with Ed Reed's mentality. Anything is ok for the almighty dollar. Anyway McNair is rich. He can afford it.
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