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Old 11-14-2013   #21
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Mitchell only started 3 games before this year.
He played just over half the defensive snaps this year.
He isn't going to cost much more than the veteran minimum.

About a dozen of these NT/DT type were drafted last year; two already became instant starters, two are spot starters, four or five could compete for the spot next year.

This coming class look to be equally deep.
That means more guys wil be kicked to the curb.

I ain't worry.
It's not like Mitchel has been striking fears into opponent QBs' heart.
See what some 2013 DL FA signed for. Some backups received respectable contracts, much more than minimums. Rule of Thumb is it usually take DL rookies 2-3 years to learn the NFL game before becoming effective.
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no way we cut od, manning and jjo. thats just stupid. MAYBE we try to restructure but we wont just cut them
Keep in mind that if there's only one year left on the contract (which will be the case with both OD and Manning next season), the only way you can restructure the contract is via an out and out pay cut. That may or may not be possible depending on a number of things, not the least of which is the players ego (ie: what he thinks he's worth compared to what he'd actually get on the open market).

Throw in the fact that both players (OD & Manning) are coming off of significant injuries, and I don't see the thought of straight out releasing them far-fetched in the slightest.
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See what some 2013 DL FA signed for. Some backups received respectable contracts, much more than minimums. Rule of Thumb is it usually take DL rookies 2-3 years to learn the NFL game before becoming effective.
Can you just show me so that I don't have to look it up.

What I know is that Chris Jones had taken over for Wilfork and played quite well.
Another rookie was John Jenkins who played well for the Saints.
These are besides the guys that were drafted higher.
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As far as the TE group is concerned, Graham's production is nothing to write home about, especially in YPC.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...alse&Submit=Go

And here's the list of FAs:
http://overthecap.com/freeagents.php...n=TE&Year=2014

Fred Davis, for example, is unhappy with his situation in Washington, so he basically was there just for show.

Then you have guys like Dallas Clark, who works for cheap while Pitta was/is out for the Ravens.

Or a guy like Dustin Keller coming back, in the meanwhile, a youngster had risen up in his place and perform well for the Dolphins.
Somebody will pay top dollars for some of these guys, leaving not much left for the rest.
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Can you just show me so that I don't have to look it up.
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/n...ensive-tackle/
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As far as the TE group is concerned, Graham's production is nothing to write home about, especially in YPC.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...alse&Submit=Go

And here's the list of FAs:
http://overthecap.com/freeagents.php...n=TE&Year=2014

Fred Davis, for example, is unhappy with his situation in Washington, so he basically was there just for show.

Then you have guys like Dallas Clark, who works for cheap while Pitta was/is out for the Ravens.

Or a guy like Dustin Keller coming back, in the meanwhile, a youngster had risen up in his place and perform well for the Dolphins.
Somebody will pay top dollars for some of these guys, leaving not much left for the rest.
Honestly, I really don't think any of this makes the Texans any better. Truthfully I just see it as more inadequate replacement.
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Dorsey combined for 193 total tackles and assists before he signed that deal.
He was a former #5 overall pick.

Mitchell will totaled 85+49(prorated) 134.

Sammie lee Hill is a 329lb space eater, something Mitchell is not.

Dwan Edwards is an 8-yr veteran at the time.

There's nothing to compare between Knighton and Mitchell.
Knighton became a force the moment he set foot on the field.
He's not only big, but also fast.

Kelly, Landri
All veterans with more years in service.


S. Marks is somewhat comparable; he was drafted higher, at #62 overall.
He signed a one-yr contact for $1.5M, basically a stop-gap measured.
Team can be more willing to give a player a little more money on a short term deal.

Mosley is a veteran and signed for a two-yr deal at $2.75M

Anyway, that list is still too long, I got tired of looking them up.

The best thing you can help me out if to filter it down to guys that were drafted a year ahead of Mitchell.

Check to see how they perform as compared to Mitchell.
We will have a better idea of the cost of resigning him.
For example, don't bother comparing him with Raji, Perry, or Knighton.
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Besides Marks, I found Corvey Irvin, drafted a few spots behind Mitchell.
Nobody wanted him for a while and he only signed with the Cowboys very recently for a bag of chip.
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Another guy that is comparable somewhat is Roy Miller; he's 310lbs and had started 39 games before signing the new 2-yr contract at $4.5M, with $1.8M cap hit in the first year.

If Mitchell stays healthy, he will have started 19 games.

Miller became a big part of the defense in his rookie year.
He started all 16 games in his second year.
Only injury prevented him to start 13 of the 16 games in the third year.

Basically, he had shown more than Mitchell did, and earlier than Mitchell did.

They were both drafted at the exact 81 spot.
Miller weighs 310lbs per wiki.
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