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Old 11-14-2013   #101
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I just know that some wouldn't dare to purposely take Kubiak's statements completely out of context on this sort of thing.

Naaa . . Perish that thought. That couldn't possibly happen.
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I just know that some wouldn't dare to purposely take Kubiak's statements completely out of context on this sort of thing.

Naaa . . Perish that thought. That couldn't possibly happen.
The fact that even out of context , it's believable , is scary .
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Kubes can say what he wants to increase Schaub trade value, but he forgot one thing there isn't a team in this league dumb enough to trade for that contract.
This is true, but remember this is the Texans. There were 31 other teams that would not pay a gimpy over-the-hill safety $6 million, too.

I'm not sure if the Texans FO understands that other teams operate differently than they do.

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This ^^

I have no idea why anyone in here thinks that Schaub somehow has a market at this time. His market is slightly higher than Rex Grossman at this point. The only HC that this fixation on Schaub is the genius we've had for 8 seasons.
I do not think anyone here thinks Schaub has trade value.

You sort of answered your own statement with the last sentence. This is Kubiak we are talking about, Marvin Lewis 2.0 of the AFC South. 8 seasons and two playoff wins.

While the rest of us and 31 other teams don't see trade value, that does not mean the Texans FO sees the same thing.

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I just know that some wouldn't dare to purposely take Kubiak's statements completely out of context on this sort of thing.

Naaa . . Perish that thought. That couldn't possibly happen.
Well, we are a collective group-think as a forum.

In all seriousness, though, what context do you think Kubiak meant that statement? Just motivation for both QBs?

Kubiak has always been sort of cryptic with his statements. Often they are probably just sort of milquetoast wording to avoid letting any information out. So yeah, probably overreaction by fans - what we do! - and not much else to it.

That said, he's sailing the seas of cheese.
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In all seriousness, though, what context do you think Kubiak meant that statement? Just motivation for both QBs?
Oh! Gracious sakes alive! It couldn't possibly be that!
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Oh! Gracious sakes alive! It couldn't possibly be that!
Well, yeah, but not nearly as fun as speculating as internet GMs!
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I'm very encouraged by what I have seen in Keenum. Certainly, from an entertainment standpoint, at 2-7, I want to watch Keenum at QB and not Matt Schaub... However, Keenum is 0-3 in his starts. It hardly smacks as insanity to consider returning to the veteran QB who led the team to two division titles and did start the season with two come from way behind wins... And, that game this past Sunday was a pretty poor performance from Keenum- lots of bad decisions and difficulty dealing with the blitz. I happen to think he missed Kubiak's game planning and preparation last week... and probably playcalling as well. However, he wasn't good- despite the TDs and the energy/excitement.

I think Kubes will stick with Keenum as long as it makes sense to do so. However, though we have seen some good things, the NFL may figure Keenum out and expose him. Then, there are concerns beyond just winning games.. like destroying Keenum's confidence, etc...He is still winless in the NFL. Be careful about that bandwagon!
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Well, yeah, but not nearly as fun as speculating as internet GMs!
I just enjoy watching the football pros do their jobs. Most Internet GMs would have cut the kicker by now. It's good to see the pros aren't that dumb. They know things we don't, obviously.
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Translation: I don't want Keenum to get comfortable and complacent.


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I just enjoy watching the football pros do their jobs. Most Internet GMs would have cut the kicker by now. It's good to see the pros aren't that dumb. They know things we don't, obviously.
yep. We are oblivious...apparently.

For instance, Derek Newton. He's not really the worst RT in the league. He just needs some encouragement to work it out.

And the kicker? The kid's performance is not really indicative of his talent. He just needs some encouragement to work it out, too.

And apparently the same with Schaub. He didn't really set an NFL record for consecutive pick 6 games. Well, he technically did, of course, but c'mon, just give the kid some encouragement and he'll work it out.

It's obvious these kids just need more encouragement, and our negativity as a fan base is certainly not giving them any confidence. We are so mean. All we care about is winning, but we cannot see how hard these kids work in practice. And that really matters on Kirby.
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I think Kubes will stick with Keenum as long as it makes sense to do so. However, though we have seen some good things, the NFL may figure Keenum out and expose him. Then, there are concerns beyond just winning games.. like destroying Keenum's confidence, etc...He is still winless in the NFL. Be careful about that bandwagon!
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yeah, unlike Schaub.
It's what you do after they expose your limitations that matters. That's where a players football IQ steps to the front of the stage. What's between your ears matters so much at this level.

Unless you go the DeAndre Hopkins route and beat them to the punch by exposing yourself first.
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Boy, you don't know Kubiak!!
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Why is Kubiak still here. The season is over. McNair should take the words right out of Kubiaks mouth. I'm not giving anyone anything. Especially not a head coach. Seriously? Marciano, bullock, Schaub? What a joke.

Why not start the search now? Give the new head coach a chance to test drive the team.
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Nothing Kubiac does surprises me when it comes down to the blind loyalty with his guys. We all have seen it, K. walter, Schaub, Marciano, frank Bush.....the list goes on. Schaub never was that good a quaterback. In his best years, he was above average(yea, I get it he went to the pro bowl, but so did wade Smith last year.....). Schaub has a lot of limitations and idiotic Kubiak decided to stick with him. Most of Schaub big numbers came from against mediorce to bad teams bc we were bad and had soft schedule. When play against tough competitions, he crumbled....and that's a fact. Even playing the Bengals last year, most of us forget that we nearly lost that game, when Matty threw the ball straight into a D lineman coming at him. And it continued to snow ball from the last 1/3 of last season to this year for Matty. THis was supposed to be a breakthrough year for us and Matty could not handle the pressure. The team was healthy for most of the part when Matty was playing. If he gets cut right now or by end of season, no one will have him as a starter, I think everyone can agree to that.

Here comes Kubiac with his lame comment about the QB situation. Kub, no one wants to see your boy on the field ever again, and most of us don't want you around either. Your record speaks for itself, a 0.500 HC. The team will find the way to make it looks like you're stepping down by end of season just because Bob likes you that much. You want to criticize Case and throw him under the bus after he's done many good thing, with no running back, a pathetic Oline?? Enough of this comedy already. You don't need to crack anymore jokes, bc people already laughing at you enough, coach. Case did not play well on the last drive when he threw the ball away on 3rd down and 2nd down, but make no mistakes that he did a lot of good things on that game considering he had to run for his life most of the game. So what if he had some near picks passes? that would still put his TD to int ratio at a respectable level. What happened to the "I got to fix me, I got to protect Matt.....bs" after Matty fell flats on his face, game after game?? why don't you offer Case some benifits of a doubt. You're done as HC with this team, dude. How can you lead a team when you almost dropped dead(no punt intended) out fear/stress on the sideline? I wish you could stay as an OC but it's not how this business works. So long Coach!!
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Nothing Kubiac does surprises me when it comes down to the blind loyalty with his guys. We all have seen it, K. walter, Schaub, Marciano, frank Bush.....the list goes on. Schaub never was that good a quaterback. In his best years, he was above average(yea, I get it he went to the pro bowl, but so did wade Smith last year.....). Schaub has a lot of limitations and idiotic Kubiak decided to stick with him. Most of Schaub big numbers came from against mediorce to bad teams bc we were bad and had soft schedule. When play against tough competitions, he crumbled....and that's a fact. Even playing the Bengals last year, most of us forget that we nearly lost that game, when Matty threw the ball straight into a D lineman coming at him. And it continued to snow ball from the last 1/3 of last season to this year for Matty. THis was supposed to be a breakthrough year for us and Matty could not handle the pressure. The team was healthy for most of the part when Matty was playing. If he gets cut right now or by end of season, no one will have him as a starter, I think everyone can agree to that.

Here comes Kubiac with his lame comment about the QB situation. Kub, no one wants to see your boy on the field ever again, and most of us don't want you around either. Your record speaks for itself, a 0.500 HC. The team will find the way to make it looks like you're stepping down by end of season just because Bob likes you that much. You want to criticize Case and throw him under the bus after he's done many good thing, with no running back, a pathetic Oline?? Enough of this comedy already. You don't need to crack anymore jokes, bc people already laughing at you enough, coach. Case did not play well on the last drive when he threw the ball away on 3rd down and 2nd down, but make no mistakes that he did a lot of good things on that game considering he had to run for his life most of the game. So what if he had some near picks passes? that would still put his TD to int ratio at a respectable level. What happened to the "I got to fix me, I got to protect Matt.....bs" after Matty fell flats on his face, game after game?? why don't you offer Case some benifits of a doubt. You're done as HC with this team, dude. How can you lead a team when you almost dropped dead(no punt intended) out fear/stress on the sideline? I wish you could stay as an OC but it's not how this business works. So long Coach!!
I do agree with this, he never put blame on Schaub when he messed up, he alwasy said I our we or some BS, and then here comes case and he straight up calls him out saying he has made a lot of mistakes this and that. Wow Kubiak must be trying to live his failed back up carer through Schaub..
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No way Gary benches Keenum for Schaub if Matt looks good in practice -- that would be as dumb as keeping Bollocks as the starting kicker when other guys (that have played with us already) are out there..




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Schaub won't just be in the NFL next year, he'll be starting for somebody though certainly not here in Houston. Whatever his shortcomings and liabilites, there's 31 other teams and many have QBs who lack both talent & experience.
I can even see a scenario where Schaub is starting in the AFC South next year
for the Titans or Jags if they decide to draft a QB and need somebody to start for them in the near term while developing their young QB.
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That last statement is just funny in a "I can't believe this guy has coached our team so f'n long kind of way".

You're not going to give anyone anything...especially the qb? Really?

So what reason would you have for putting Matt back in there? Because he's earned it in practice? Seriously?

Pardon my French, but if kubiak throws Matt back out there for any reason besides a case injury in going to be convinced that they are screwing. Being lovers is the only reason I can come up with for why he'd coddle Schaub like this. Maybe his hidden kid from his teenage years.

The statement alone shows a disconnect with reality. Kubiak is not mentally fit to be an nfl head coach.

Honestly, it's probably best for all involved including him and his health, if he just bows out.
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Schaub won't just be in the NFL next year, he'll be starting for somebody though certainly not here in Houston. Whatever his shortcomings and liabilites, there's 31 other teams and many have QBs who lack both talent & experience.
I can even see a scenario where Schaub is starting in the AFC South next year
for the Titans or Jags if they decide to draft a QB and need somebody to start for them in the near term while developing their young QB.
No way because no other coach has or wants to bend over backwards to hide Schaubs shortcomings .
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Translation: I don't want Keenum to get comfortable and complacent.
Keenum doesn't have time for either the way the O-line is playing.
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