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Old 11-13-2013   #41
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Don't see the logic of cutting Jonathan Joseph considering how little depth (experienced or not) we have back there and the same for OD. Actually ESPECIALLY OD because Garrett Graham has shown nothing being hte primary TE.

Freeing up money or not, it can easily blow up in our faces if the guys, rookie or vet, we try to replace them with can't get the job done.
Agreed. A lot of people want to cut Joseph because of his contract. But if you cut him then Harris is your other starter across from Jackson and McCain is still in the slot. How does this improve the team?
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Not sure if this has been asked. I didn't read the whole thread, but Jonathan Martin ain't going back to the Dolphins, would you trade for him and if so what would you give up? We'd play him at RT.
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Agreed. A lot of people want to cut Joseph because of his contract. But if you cut him then Harris is your other starter across from Jackson and McCain is still in the slot. How does this improve the team?
It don't. Now you have to put Kareem on the #1 WR and that's a worse scenario than J Jo and McCain on the other side and that's a worse scenario than Kareem. So in essence the team has now taken two steps backwards at getting worse instead of better.
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Not sure if this has been asked. I didn't read the whole thread, but Jonathan Martin ain't going back to the Dolphins, would you trade for him and if so what would you give up? We'd play him at RT.
No, No and No. Jonathan Martin's troubles stem from the fact that he's not a very good OT in the NFL. Plus the fact of all the baggage he would bring to a locker room. Who would trust him?
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If the Texans keep the 3-4, then Anthony Spencer would be an intriguing signing. Him being hurt all this year should decrease his value to a more realistic range.
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If Brent Grimes takes the 3yr-$18M deal, and continues to play the way he does as compared to the way JJo has been playing, that's an upgrade at $2M less per annum, even as the Texans have to eat that $7.5M in dead money.
They're just a bit short on cap space for the first year, but that won't be a problem if Watt doesn't have to be resigned until 2015.
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Not sure if this has been asked. I didn't read the whole thread, but Jonathan Martin ain't going back to the Dolphins, would you trade for him and if so what would you give up? We'd play him at RT.
Why trade for a guy you know they are going to have to cut?

After that I can see him getting a shot with this team (especially if Kubiak or Rick Smith are still around) but trading for a underperforming line man when we got two young ones on IR for next season, as bad as this team has been I would like to think we are smarter then that.
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Don't see the logic of cutting Jonathan Joseph considering how little depth (experienced or not) we have back there and the same for OD. Actually ESPECIALLY OD because Garrett Graham has shown nothing being hte primary TE.

Freeing up money or not, it can easily blow up in our faces if the guys, rookie or vet, we try to replace them with can't get the job done.
This has been my point as nothing in draft to replace him. I could see them bonus some money and extend him couple years to lower cap but he has not impressed me so far this season. Not sure if the groin injury is part of issue or not if it healed. An option may exist in fee agency.
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