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Old 11-12-2013   #81
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To me this seems petty...you can miss a ton of FG's and you can keep your job...

So fall in line you get to stay but act out your gone
Happens all the time. Not sure why you are surprised. I'm not happy with Fat Randy either, but if Bullock's performance was on par with Reed's he would be missing 30-yard FG's because the kick was short.

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This reeks of either Smith trying to save his job or Kubiak. Its gonna get nasty.
I agree. I think both could be singing "Two Tickets To Paradise" after this season.

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Alright, now I'm pissed. I don't care that the guy was at the bottom of the league in safety play. You had a leader with championship experience put into words the very issues that have become obvious to attentive fans, and instead of sitting him down and maybe learning something from him you trashcan him. The money was already paid... why not utilize the only tool he had left -- his brain.

This tells me Wade is intransigent in his play calling and lack of adjustments. And it sends the message to vets to keep their mouths shut or get cut. That contributes to a leadership void.
IMO Reed didn't mean a thing to this team. He simply brought nothing to the table. The hired gun forgot to bring his bullets and everybody knew it.
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I bet he signs with a contender. And is playing in New Jersey come February.
In which case they'll no longer be a contender.
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The rest of this years salary and another $1.333m that would have gone on next years but should now be on this years cap.
The $1.333M (along with another $1.333M) will all hit next years cap. Any unamortized bonus for a player cut (or traded for that matter) after June 1 of the league year gets fully recognized in the following league year.
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Even if he was correct?

We have been saying for years this team is outcoached - almost every game.
Even if he was correct.

Kubiak has been outcoached but if one of the players said something to the degree of "Matt Schaub sucks" or If Arian Foster said the line isn't doing it's job, would you consider that being ok?

Just because everyone knows it doesn't mean it needs to be said by their colleagues.

Keep the appearance of unity on the outside.
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Let's spread the rumor that Bullock is saying we were outcoached and that he's being bullied by McNair's Son.
I heard Derek Newton complaining about the coaching as well.
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Should have kept Glover Quin.
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Memo sent today:

Let that be a lesson to the rest of you that speaking your mind is not acceptable in this club. We want you to tell the media how well your coaches prepare you, and how you would run through a brick wall for them. Your coaches work hard to prepare you every week to consistently be close to winning, and they deserve your adoration and respect. Next time someone asks you about this team in the postgame, say you love "Coach Kubes" cause the media loves nicknames.

If we lose, be sure to blame abstract things like "they played a better game" or "not wanting it enough." We can't have dissent in the lockerroom, or it might lead to even more losses. Clearly Mr. Reed was not a team player, as evidenced by his comments the other day. He was a cancer, and is the reason we lost all these games. His undermining nature and pride have taken this team from Super Bowl contender to basement dweller. Now that we have that bit taken care of, you can bet this team will be in the playoffs next year. Soldier on good men, for next year Kubiak, Wade and Marciano will lead us to the promised land!
Players shouldn't come out and blast the coaches or other players - especially when their coach already deflects the vast majority of the blame on himself to begin with. Its on me Matt threw a pick 6 4 weeks in a row , Its on me Ed Reed cant tackle. Its on me Hopkins fumbled in the red zone.

Blaming others doesn't solve anything. Throwing it out there for the media to kick around doesn't do anyone any favors either.


You keep your troubles in house .... got a problem take it to the coach , not the media.
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Whatever. This team is ****ed anyways.
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A couple things beyond the frustration of a gamble that really, really did not payoff this off-season:

1. They are getting him off the books now- instead of taking the hit next season, which is great.

2. This should also have a positive impact on the compensatory draft pick formula... Performance impacts the equation somehow. And, I'm sure being cut and only starting a couple games will lessen his value when the picks are rewarded to the Texans for the signings of: Barwin, Casey, Quin, Ball, Forsett, .

It's the best move the Texans could have made at this point... I'm glad they are willing to admit a mistake this quickly, at least- instead of keeping him around and attempting to justify it or hide it.
1. It doesn't make a difference in the longrun.

2. It might reduce his valuation, but it's really an unknown. Snap counts seem to have an effect on it, so I guess this will reduce that. It's not like he was gonna get all-pro or probowl honors this year anyways. His contract is still big, and will likely cancel out either Quin or Barwin's.

This was a retaliation move, no question. You can't talk bad about the coaches, no matter how obviously inept they are. It's the same as talking crap about your boss in the real world. If they have power over you, don't be surprised to see them exert it when you piss them off. This was absolutely not an accountability or performance move.

I just want to reiterate that THIS WAS NOT AN ACCOUNTABILITY MOVE!
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I heard Derek Newton complaining about the coaching as well.
Even more egregious was Newton saying that he though battle red was fugly.

We need to take the message to where it counts! Twitter, of course.
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Practical decision. They had paid a premium for damaged goods whose only prospect was souring the locker room.

No upside, demonstrable liability.
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Players shouldn't come out and blast the coaches or other players - especially when their coach already deflects the vast majority of the blame on himself to begin with. Its on me Matt threw a pick 6 4 weeks in a row , Its on me Ed Reed cant tackle. Its on me Hopkins fumbled in the red zone.

Blaming others doesn't solve anything. Throwing it out there for the media to kick around doesn't do anyone any favors either.


You keep your troubles in house .... got a problem take it to the coach , not the media.
Ed Reed was terminated because he wouldn't take the steel blue pill of bliss. There is no spoon.

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To me, this still brings up the issue of accountability by the FO and coaching staff.

Bullock plays poorly and we pretend to have a FA kicking try-out, but it was all basically a scare tactic.

Newton is god awful and still plays ahead of Ryan Harris.

Ed Reed played poorly and was benched.

Then you have the coaching.........

Marciano. Enough said.

Kubiak/Dennison halftime adjustments (or lack-thereof).

Point being, if you don't perform well at your job there is a 99% job you will keep it. If I'm Ed Reed I'm pissed at being benched too. Look at the mediocrity around you and you're the one who gets benched. Not to mention he's the only guy to come out and voice the opinion that the majority of the fanbase already has. We all thought it and, for me, it was nice to hear someone from inside actually acknowledge it.

I thought it was a horrible signing when we brought him in and have no problem with seeing him gone. It's the matter in which it went about that gets me. The FO is basically telling players that they can suck as long as they toe the company line.
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He hasn't been "great" all season, but I don't think Ed Reed is the main reason we lost 7 in a row. I get it you can be as mediocre as you want just don't question the mediocrity of the coaching...make sense.
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I heard marciano was saying he should coach the defense due to the fact his style of coaching always pins the offense inside the twenty.
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Dead Reed laughing all the way to the bank...

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Thank god..we havnt won a game since he stepped on the field..here comes a 7 game winning streak...
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I'm glad they made the move, but the only problem now is that he is going to probably blab about what a horrible organization this is and talk mad sh!t and embarrass the city, and everything he says will be believed because he's a HOF'er and the Texans are 2 and 7.

I wonder if we could pay him another million to sign a non disclosure agreement.

Watch the Patriots pick him up, pay him vet min and then he'll play lights out 10 picks, and. SB Ring, would be the icing on the cake for this season.
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I can't help but notice that any player that has spoken against the interests of the organization does not stick around another year.

Eric Winston and DeMeco Ryans were representatives in the players union during the lockout. Kris Brown ratted out Kubiak about practices. Then there's "Pay Me Rick" Robinson.

Sure, each one may have written their own ticket out of town, but the FO didn't put any effort into retaining them. This may be tinfoil hat territory, but it's a pattern. Has any player at odds with the coaches or Smith been retained even for one year?
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I'm glad they made the move, but the only problem now is that he is going to probably blab about what a horrible organization this is and talk mad sh!t and embarrass the city, and everything he says will be believed because he's a HOF'er and the Texans are 2 and 7.

I wonder if we could pay him another million to sign a non disclosure agreement.

Watch the Patriots pick him up, pay him vet min and then he'll play lights out 10 picks, and. SB Ring, would be the icing on the cake for this season.
you want to pay to shut him up? This team doesn't need anyone to embarrass them since this is just more failure. They do a good job all by themselves.
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