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Old 11-11-2013   #61
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Actually, I think to a large extent both of these are true. Ed reed knows what a well run organization looks like, but he himself has been miscast as a true leader. also, it hard to lead guys who know that you while great at advice really can't play any differently than Eddie Pleasant.


I always feel that veteran 'leadership' mostly comes from players already within an organization. In free agency, an organization has to buy tangible production. "leadership" is an intangible because like the definition says the value is not known.

Yes! Exactly! It's not something you can go out and buy at a bargain-bin closeout from a Super Bowl team. It's not something you can tack on to your own club by adding a player or two. When has a guy with "rings" ever come here for any club and made a positive difference in the chemistry and personality of the team just because he'd been successful somewhere else? Clemens and Pettitte maybe? A little bit? Every year when the playoffs would get here you would always see that news story where they talked to the guy who was brought in as a free agent or in trade and who had a ring from some other team. The Chronic talks to him like he holds some mysterious secret and is about to impart it on the rest of us but that's BS and we all know it. On THIS team Ed Reed is just another guy no matter how much the Texans want the other players to buy into this idea that he's some kind of Yoda who is going to fix everything.

We got this guy..... Ed Reed
He's the smartest man in the world!
He's gonna fix EVERYTHING!

Not so much.

When I called him "a kind of cancer" I think the words weren't well chosen. I didn't mean he was like one of those locker room cancers who brings in all kinds of baggage and who turns the locker room on itself. I really didn't. He's more of a fly in the soup or a turd in the punchbowl. His presence on this team upsets whatever it was that passed for team chemistry and he provides nothing in the way of play on the field to offset that. He doesn't play well and he doesn't speak with the authority that a veteran in this locker room who played his entire career here would have. He pulls down bank and plays less and poorer than a lot of our scrubs.

Sure he's saying things that are true. He's saying things that have been bouncing around this and every other Texans board for what is it? 5-6 years? Longer? It's not that anyone is dismissing it or that it isn't true. It's that he's not the guy who should be doing this. If Watt or AJ was saying this it would be significant and valid. Ed Reed saying it is like the guy robbing your house who points out that your kitchen sink is full of dishes on his way out the door.
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If Watt or AJ was saying this it would be significant and valid. Ed Reed saying it is like the guy robbing your house who points out that your kitchen sink is full of dishes on his way out the door.
Great point Herv. And funny too. Reed is a lone wolf on this team. He contributes nothing on the field and he basically stole from Bob McNair by concealing his injury for one last fat payday from a team that he has contributed absolutely nothing too. He is like that guy at work that goes out with "hurt at work" injuries and lives off short term disability. Then he turns around and complains about the company while you and your coworkers are the ones actually dealing with it everyday. To me he is lazy and disrespectful and a poor example of how to deal with adversity.

If he wanted to do the right thing then maybe instead of tweeting out all the Texans business (as obvious as it is) for the world to see he could of sat down with JJ Watt and Andre Johnson and discussed what he felt was wrong and see what the team leaders thought would be the best course of action to take to fix it.
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Great point Herv. And funny too. Reed is a lone wolf on this team. He contributes nothing on the field and he basically stole from Bob McNair by concealing his injury for one last fat payday from a team that he has contributed absolutely nothing too. He is like that guy at work that goes out with "hurt at work" injuries and lives off short term disability. Then he turns around and complains about the company while you and your coworkers are the ones actually dealing with it everyday. To me he is lazy and disrespectful and a poor example of how to deal with adversity.

If he wanted to do the right thing then maybe instead of tweeting out all the Texans business (as obvious as it is) for the world to see he could of sat down with JJ Watt and Andre Johnson and discussed what he felt was wrong and see what the team leaders thought would be the best course of action to take to fix it.
For the all the money Bob Mcnair has taken from Texans fans and shown us no success in playoffs... I have no problem with seeing Ed Reed take a little bit of Bob McNair's money and in turn show no success in his play on the field. Takes one to know one.
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I'd convert Reed into a Defensive Assistant.
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Ed Reed has been on one of the consistently best defenses in the league and won it all. If he is looking around and doesn't like what he sees, I would listen. It should be apparent to everyone that we have huge issues in the coaching staff, the front office, and frankly the organization as a whole. There are tough decisions to be made, lets just hope we find someone who has the sack to make them.
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That does not discredit his comments
I see the point. I know my frustration about this comes mostly because my team is so hard to watch this season. He is 100% correct, but it irritates me that he makes those comments when he has done nothing on the field to help this team.
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Default Re: Ed Reed calls out the coaching staff? :kitten:

I'm now firmly in the camp of "no more used up washed out overpriced players ever!".

There are six million reasons why nobody should feel sorry for Ed Reed ending his career in Houston.

As far as Ed speaking out; Didn't the owner say the reason they were getting Reed was attitude and leadership? Well, I guess they are getting what they paid for, although probably not what they had in mind.

Just like the Astrodome - time to BLOW IT UP!!!
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I'm now firmly in the camp of "no more used up washed out overpriced players ever!".

There are six million reasons why nobody should feel sorry for Ed Reed ending his career in Houston.

As far as Ed speaking out; Didn't the owner say the reason they were getting Reed was attitude and leadership? Well, I guess they are getting what they paid for, although probably not what they had in mind.

Just like the Astrodome - time to BLOW IT UP!!!
BOOM!!!!!

I wish it to happen, but still think it'll be status quo for next season. We might see an asst coach or a few player personnel changes, but no major shake ups.

I'll continue to pray McNair gets pissed and cleans house
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To bad Ed doesn't have as many Passes Defended or Interceptions than he does opinions about the teams performance.
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To bad Ed doesn't have as many Passes Defended or Interceptions than he does opinions about the teams performance.
Well, in fairness to Reed, he's right. No one is throwing at him. I mean the few passes that have been even remotely near were at least a good 5-6 yards away.
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Well, in fairness to Reed, he's right. He's not close enough to make any plays. I mean the few passes that Reed has been even remotely near he was at least a good 5-6 yards away because he sucks now.
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Can we just cut Ed Reed today , and have his dead $$ on this years cap instead of next .... somehow ?!
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Default Re: Ed Reed calls out the coaching staff? :kitten:

This defense runs the same blitzes over and over to no avail. The middle linebackers come crashing into a wall of waiting offensive linemen. Offenses never have to worry about any exotic coverages or blitzes.

As an offense, it must be a cakewalk to gameplan the Texans. I'm waiting for a team to run nothing but quick screens. Think the Broncos will do it with their deadly tunnel screens.
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It isn't about what he said but who was saying it. Like the as whole complaining to the brain that the bowel movement is not happening. It isn't but shut up and do you part then complain.
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It isn't about what he said but who was saying it. Like the as whole complaining to the brain that the bowel movement is not happening. It isn't but shut up and do you part then complain.
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Love how everyone is ripping on Reed when he is 100% correct! At elast someone on this team is saying what everyone is seeing
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LOL, beer farts like Reed might feel good and make us nod and smile, neither accomplishes much for longer than a second and then we turn and deny it.
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Love how everyone is ripping on Reed when he is 100% correct! At elast someone on this team is saying what everyone is seeing
I didn't rip him , just said I'd like to cut him now instead of later - He isn't helping this team post W's and will cost $1.333m against next seasons cap when cut.

What good is keeping him around doing ? While we are at it , can we dump Schaub too , gonna suck to have ~$10.5m in dead money from him.
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Reed is only saying what we are all thinking. Why are people blasting the guy who has the insight that we desperately want to hear about?
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Reed is only saying what we are all thinking. Why are people blasting the guy who has the insight that we desperately want to hear about?
Exactly. Reed may not be what he once was on the field, or he may be and this system is just ridiculously horrible and doesn't give players a chance to make a play. Is our secondary really as bad as it seems, or does the system rely too much on blitzes and when they don't get there we are picked apart?
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