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Old 11-11-2013   #2141
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I used to not be interested in Gruden but I've had a bit of a change of heart. I would not be upset with a Gruden hire. I'd just be really interested in who/how he'd bring in to address the defense.

Hypothetical situation. If Gruden were hired to coach the Texans next year (set aside your dislike of that if you're against it. Just bear with me here....) Who would you want to see him bring in as his DC?
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Art Briles if looking at college coaches, Tony Dungee if looking for experience.
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David Shaw is my number one choice if we dip into the college ranks.
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The candidates for all the coaching positions are incomplete right now. Too many what ifs. What if Tom Coughlin is fired? How high up the list would he be for head coach? Rex Ryan for DC?

This is still fun to do though. Nothing left for the season. I want a head coach with head coaching experience - college or pro. I want a head coach that is just a head coach and not a coordinator too. I want a head coach that hires versatile coordinators that can modify their systems to their personnel like Mike McCoy. Mostly, I want a head coach that makes the other team say "we were outcoached" after the game.
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Bill Cowher for DC.
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Clear a couple things up first:

Shaw won't be leaving Stanford.
Lovie Smith is not a good coach
Gruden isn't leaving MNF

Now, some other prospects mentioned:

Tony Dungy may be the most overrated coach in NFL history (Anyone could have done what he did with Peyton. In fact, a really good coach would have won many more titles). Just see what Jim Caldwell did with Peyton (14-2) and without.

Rex Ryan isn't getting fired by the Jets - he has done a phenomenal job this year. He's weird, but I'd take him in a heartbeat.

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Honestly? My ideal scenario would be this:

New HC - Make a John Harbaugh style hire (Harbs was a ST coordinator, everyone called Ravens crazy, now look at him). God knows we need more emphasis on Special teams.

Keep Wade - Defense has been fine. Offense has been putting them in a horrible spot, not to mention injuries.

New OC - Im not totally opposed to keeping Kubiak as OC (altho i don't think he would accept that). Perhaps if his health issues force him to coach from the booth, it would be a seamless transition. The gap in play calling between Rick Dennison and Kubiak is apparent. And Gary has always been a good offensive mind - he struggles as a head coach, however.
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Really surprised that no one is mentioning LOVE SMITH. Especially with all of these Kubiak fans who love a "nice guy." Lovie was the definition of a coach who did more with less in my opinion in his time in Chicago. He dealt with tons of injury plagued teams, but when they were healthy Lovie usually had them playing well as a collective group. Hell, the guy got this team to a SB with Rex Grossman at the helm. When they finally got Cutler he gets them back to a NFC championship game where they almost made it to the SB. Here is an experienced coach out there right now that has a lot of post season experience and has proven he can make things work. I think that Lovie Smith is going to go somewhere and have more success the same way that John Fox has. I'd love for it to be the Texans.
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Clear a couple things up first:

Shaw won't be leaving Stanford.
Lovie Smith is not a good coach
Gruden isn't leaving MNF

Now, some other prospects mentioned:

Tony Dungey may be the most overrated coach in NFL history (Anyone could have done what he did with Peyton. In fact, a really good coach would have won many more titles). Just see what Jim Caldwell did with Peyton (14-2) and without.

Rex Ryan isn't getting fired by the Jets - he has done a phenomenal job this year. He's weird, but I'd take him in a heartbeat.
What about the team Dungy left in Tampa? Gruden takes all the credit, but Dungy assembled.that team.
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Honestly? My ideal scenario would be this:

New HC - Make a John Harbaugh style hire (Harbs was a ST coordinator, everyone called Ravens crazy, now look at him). God knows we need more emphasis on Special teams.

Keep Wade - Defense has been fine. Offense has been putting them in a horrible spot, not to mention injuries.

New OC - Im not totally opposed to keeping Kubiak as OC (altho i don't think he would accept that). Perhaps if his health issues force him to coach from the booth, it would be a seamless transition. The gap in play calling between Rick Dennison and Kubiak is apparent. And Gary has always been a good offensive mind - he struggles as a head coach, however.
Dave Toub, ST coach with KC. This guy is going to be another Harbaugh.

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What about the team Dungy left in Tampa? Gruden takes all the credit, but Dungy assembled.that team.
Dungy wasn't the GM. Rich McKay was. The Bucs realized that they needed to get over the hump - so they brought Gruden in.

Peyton made up for Dungy's porous defense (that's supposed to be his specialty, right?) for years in Indy. With an average QB, Dungy would be just another guy.
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Dave Toub, ST coach with KC. This guy is going to be another Harbaugh.

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Keep Wade - Defense has been fine. Offense has been putting them in a horrible spot, not to mention injuries.

New OC - Im not totally opposed to keeping Kubiak as OC (altho i don't think he would accept that). Perhaps if his health issues force him to coach from the booth, it would be a seamless transition. The gap in play calling between Rick Dennison and Kubiak is apparent. And Gary has always been a good offensive mind - he struggles as a head coach, however.
I'll believe that Shaw isn't leaving Stanford when he says, "No I don't want your $7 million a year to be your Head Coach"

A new HC has to have the autonomy to hire who he wants for his coaching staff.
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Can just the mods see it?
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