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Old 11-10-2013   #21
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Why wouldn't he leave?

Ok, he likes the city. So?

JJ is a nice guy, but he wants a ring. Say that slowly: He. Wants. A. Ring.

How do you know if Kubiak won't be here in two years?

I'm guessing we're stuck with Kubiak for another 10 years, or until Kubiak wants to leave on his own.

Why should JJ put up with that?
So AJ doesn't want a ring? Duane Brown?
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dumbest thread i've seen in a while. no reason to think watt doesn't love htown.

we had a down year. so what. he's not hitting the market for a long time, and we'll lock him up way before that ever happens.

watt will be a texan for life.
That's what I thought up until 2 months ago.

How do we know if JJ will LET US lock him up before his contract is up?

If you really liked JJ, you'd want him to go be the top player he wants to be.

No one is saying he doesn't love Houston. He likes it. But the guy really wants to be a top-notch NFL defensive player, and wants to be known as one of the best, and wants a ring, so that will override any "love" of Houston.
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So AJ doesn't want a ring? Duane Brown?

Sure, AJ wants a ring. But it has not happened.

JJ is much earlier in his career than AJ. If JJ were smart, he'd be looking at AJ and thinking: I want more than that.

That's not a knock against AJ. I love AJ. Just being real about the realities of wasting a career at an NFL team that never progresses.
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dumbest thread i've seen in a while. no reason to think watt doesn't love htown.

we had a down year. so what. he's not hitting the market for a long time, and we'll lock him up way before that ever happens.

watt will be a texan for life.
I'm sure he loves H-Town but not to the point of giving up his dreams. Never once heard him mention generating massive wealth as a primary goal.


He left Central Michigan (a school he really like) to walk on at Wisconsin because he realized the move would help him attain his goals.

Why wouldn't he make a similar decision to leave the Texans if they can't help him get that Super Bowl ring.
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Sure, AJ wants a ring. But it has not happened.

JJ is much earlier in his career than AJ. If JJ were smart, he'd be looking at AJ and thinking: I want more than that.

That's not a knock against AJ. I love AJ. Just being real about the realities of wasting a career at an NFL team that never progresses.
You're predicting the future, yet asking how we know Kubiak will or will not be here in the future? naughty, naughty.

If JJ desperately needs a ring right now like you say, i can send him some he could use on his lady friend during coitus.
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I'm sure he loves H-Town but not to the point of giving up his dreams. Never once heard him mention generating massive wealth as a primary goal.


He left Central Michigan (a school he really like) to walk on at Wisconsin because he realized the move would help him attain his goals.

Why wouldn't he make a similar decision to leave the Texans if they can't help him get that Super Bowl ring.
Correct. Just zapped you some REP.

And at this point, he's built such a national profile, that he's going to get paid regardless of where he goes. So why not go to a team that's a contender?
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Default Re: If you were JJ Watt, would you stay?

Reggie White moved to the Packers based partially on his perception that it would not only give him wealth but also a good chance at winning a Super Bowl.

JJ knows Reggie's story. Houston best think twice if they believe signing Watt long term is a done deal.
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Reggie White moved to the Packers based partially on his perception that it would not only give him wealth but also a good chance at winning a Super Bowl.

JJ knows Reggie's story. Houston best think twice if they believe signing Watt long term is a done deal.
lol the packers were garbage before reggie signed...they just happened to be the team that offered the most. lucky for him, a certain #4 turned into the gunsliging, little pecker pic sending son of a gun.
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Yes they weren't great but Reggie stated many times that he met with the management and Brett.

He liked the vibe and felt they were on their way to doing good things.

Reggie White didn't take the Packers to Super Bowl on his own. He knew he needed help. Just like JJ.
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We're in position to select a dominating defensive player with our first-round draft pick in 2014. We may soon add another force up front to take some pressure off of Watt. I think he'll stay long term. We're going to be a great team again in 2014. All we have to do is add more young talent around him on the defensive side of the ball.
If special teams and offensive line doesn't get fixed we won't. If Kubiak is still here we won't. Bob Mcnair has to step up.
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Default Re: If you were JJ Watt, would you stay?

JJ Watt will do what he thinks is best for him. If his goal first and foremost is to win a SB, then his decision will be affected more towards that goal. If Kubiak is still here, he is most likely gone and I wouldn't blame him one bit. I'd wish him luck.
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This is such a nice little pity party I hesitate to crash it but anyone who thinks we are letting the best defensive player in football go is crazy. He will be franchised until the end of time or he will sign a long-term deal. His agent is not an idiot, JJ likes the city and his first two years here we won the AFC South. So the ceiling came crashing down on this coaching staff/previous QB, we still have an excellent owner and I would bet JJ is locked up well before we even know if the next regime is worth a lick. This isn't the NBA people, players don't team up like the Miami Heat.
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JJ doesn't seem to be that type of guy. IMO guys like him, AJ, Owen Daniels, etc care about this team and city and are the leaders and role models the younger guys look up to. I would be shocked if JJ left considering how much of an impact he has on this team + no guarantees your success will follow.
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It depends on 2 things

1. Who BoB hires to lead the team
2. A truckload full of $$$$
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it would blow to lose him to the Packers. He could be the next Reggie White.
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how long has he been here he has no choice he has to stay here for 4 years ..........!!!!!!!!! LOL we will tag his ass LOL
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This is such a nice little pity party I hesitate to crash it but anyone who thinks we are letting the best defensive player in football go is crazy. He will be franchised until the end of time or he will sign a long-term deal. His agent is not an idiot, JJ likes the city and his first two years here we won the AFC South. So the ceiling came crashing down on this coaching staff/previous QB, we still have an excellent owner and I would bet JJ is locked up well before we even know if the next regime is worth a lick. This isn't the NBA people, players don't team up like the Miami Heat.
Are you drunk?

Franchised until the end of time? What does that even mean?

If his agent is smart, he's telling JJ, right this minute, to start thinking about other teams.

JJ likes the city. So what? There's a lot of cities to like.

He will get paid regardless.

As I have said: Bob McNair will have to chose between Kubiak and JJ. Personally, I'd chose JJ and let Kubiak walk; but, indications are that we're stuck with Kubiak for many years to come, so, I wish JJ luck and I will follow him and wish him well.

JJ Watt has an agent, managers, a marketing team and friends and family all telling him that, with his national endorsements, he can go anywhere, get paid, and STILL win a Super Bowl.

He does not have to stay in Houston to be liked.
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JJ has played in four playoff games with this team in 2.5 seasons. He knows that teams have down years. Look at New York, Atlanta, or the Colts two years ago. Bad seasons happen. Every player knows that.

That said, there are teams that players may be reluctant to play for. They are the Raiders, Bills, Jacksonville, and Cleveland.
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why the **** not?

If you were Watt than you only had to endure one **** season.
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JJ has played in four playoff games with this team in 2.5 seasons. He knows that teams have down years. Look at New York, Atlanta, or the Colts two years ago. Bad seasons happen. Every player knows that.

That said, there are teams that players may be reluctant to play for. They are the Raiders, Bills, Jacksonville, and Cleveland.
And then there are the teams that many players would like to play for. New England, San Fran and New Orleans come to mind.

If you don't think Bill Belichick is already mentally plotting a way to get JJ Watt in a few years, you are kidding yourself.
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