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Old 11-08-2013   #21
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Here is a link to a very detailed explanation of cap and dead money which you might find helpful.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-of-dead-money
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In this case, if JJo is cut there are 2 years of original signing bonus to account for totaling $5mil and 2 years of restructuring signing bonus to account for totalling $2.5 mil. That is $7.5 mil in dead money to cut him after this season.
Ugh @ $7.5m in dead money .... If that's the case it would be kinda difficult to cut him as unless you find a CB in the draft to replace him with , it isn't likely you upgrade the position with what's left between salary and dead money. You might fill the spot but doubtful you upgrade thru FA with ~$4m.
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Ugh @ $7.5m in dead money .... If that's the case it would be kinda difficult to cut him as unless you find a CB in the draft to replace him with , it isn't likely you upgrade the position with what's left between salary and dead money. You might fill the spot but doubtful you upgrade thru FA with ~$4m.
If Brent Grimes takes the 3yr-$18M deal, and continues to play the way he does as compared to the way JJo has been playing, that's an upgrade at $2M less per annum, even as the Texans have to eat that $7.5M in dead money.
They're just a bit short on cap space for the first year, but that won't be a problem if Watt doesn't have to be resigned until 2015.
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personally i cut without blinking an eye , schaub, od, jjo, reed. and resigning ninja is a MUST!!!!!! and go out and find a CB and S in FA. then with the draft we should be back into competing for playoffs and our window opens again.

i feel sorry for those guys cut especially OD buts its the nature of the game.
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Cutting Ed Reed would create $1.33 in dead money which is a net $4 mil cap savings over keeping him.*

Greg Jones was on a 1 year contract.

Cutting Foster would create $7.5 mil in dead money which is a net $1.25 mil cap savings over keeping him. I would put that in the "not going to happen" pile. Foster has received all his guaranteed money.

* According to spotrac Ed Reed received the last $2 mil of his guaranteed money in 2012 as an advance on base salaries which is included akin to prorated signing bonus in the above.
Cutting Foster would create $1.25 mil in cap space and a mile-wide empty space in locker room cancer. I don't care if he saves us enough to buy a couple of Big Macs in cap space. I don't want the sour attitude on the team any more.
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Cutting Foster would create $1.25 mil in cap space and a mile-wide empty space in locker room cancer. I don't care if he saves us enough to buy a couple of Big Macs in cap space. I don't want the sour attitude on the team any more.
How is Foster in any way a team cancer? Jeez, people.
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Tate, Smith, Smith and Jones are outright free agents so there is no salary cap relief for them. In addition 2013 starters Mitchell, Graham, Mays and Sharpton are also outright free agents no salary cap relief for them. Texans have 18 free agents in 2014. With their contracts off the books the Texans are expected to currently begin the 2014 $8 million under the salary cap with 35 players from the 2013 season under contract.

If as you suggest, the Texans release Schaub, Daniels, Reed and Foster the Texans will increase their amount of being under salary cap by approx $13 million. The Texans are currently expected to start the 2014 $8 million under the cap. Adding $13 million will give them a total of approx $21 million under the salary cap to start 2014. Add the 4 released players you suggested to the 18 free agents contracts that have to be replaced and there is now 22 contracts that have to be replaced in 2014.

The Texans now have to replace their #1 and #2 RBs.
The Texans now have to replace their #1 and #2 TEs.
The Texans now have to replace their current starting ILBs.
The Texans now have to replace 2/3rds of their starting DL.
The Texans now have to replace their starting LG and FB.

Essentially the Texans have emptied their entire backfield, depleted most of their DL and wiped out their starting TE corp, reduced the # ILBs by half. Should be interesting.
RB's Hopefully Foster makes it back, but if not I would keep Johnson and Karim, then draft Charles Sims in the 4/5th rd range. He's a stud.

TE's Graham/Griffin will be back. I would sign a blocking TE for the vet Min.

ILB's Cushing should be back and healthy, (It's not like he's coming back from ACL surgery) Drafting a guy like Skov/A.Jackson or Borland in the 3/4th rd range would be a massive upgrade.

DL, would be replaced at the top of the draft.

Quessenberry will most likely play LG next yr and be an upgrade over Smith. Boren is on the PS and would replace Jones.

The main thing is the Texans must hit on atleast 4 draft picks this yr if they want to keep pace with the Colts. They also need to have luck on their side and stay relatively injury free next yr.

I've got very little faith in Rick/Gary/Wade being able to hit on 4 picks in one draft. There are too many holes to fill in one draft for the Texans. If they hit on the DL/ILB/OL in this draft and add toughness to the team I will be happy.
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Bump signing any FAs, maybe a few bodies to play situation, but until Ricks gone, this cap issue will still linger. Build straight through draft, and no more over the hill FAs. Focus on resigning the house, Reem and Watt primarily come to mind.
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Bump signing any FAs, maybe a few bodies to play situation, but until Ricks gone, this cap issue will still linger. Build straight through draft, and no more over the hill FAs. Focus on resigning the house, Reem and Watt primarily come to mind.
Reed is the only "over the hill FA" they have signed in a long time and he was signed to be the final piece to the defense - it just didn't work out.


As for the cap situation , they went all in for this season .... They along with most of the media & fans thought this team had a shot at winning or at least reaching a superbowl.

The cap situation can be cleaned up in one season and even with considerable dead money , they can have up to ~$40m in cap space to work with by cutting a couple guys and not resigning others.
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Reed is the only "over the hill FA" they have signed in a long time and he was signed to be the final piece to the defense - it just didn't work out.


As for the cap situation , they went all in for this season .... They along with most of the media & fans thought this team had a shot at winning or at least reaching a superbowl.

The cap situation can be cleaned up in one season and even with considerable dead money , they can have up to ~$40m in cap space to work with by cutting a couple guys and not resigning others.
While I agree with you on the cap situation,

C-N-D warned us about Schaub/Foster etc... before the season. If he could figure this out, then you would think Rick/Gary/Texans medical staff could figure it out. After all they are paid millions of $$$$ to figure it out. How much does C-N-D get paid? This is why there should be a full house cleaning.
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While I agree with you on the cap situation,

C-N-D warned us about Schaub/Foster etc... before the season. If he could figure this out, then you would think Rick/Gary/Texans medical staff could figure it out. After all they are paid millions of $$$$ to figure it out. How much does C-N-D get paid? This is why there should be a full house cleaning.
I think they are paid to provide evidence, do what they are told and keep their mouths shut.
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While I agree with you on the cap situation,

C-N-D warned us about Schaub/Foster etc... before the season. If he could figure this out, then you would think Rick/Gary/Texans medical staff could figure it out. After all they are paid millions of $$$$ to figure it out. How much does C-N-D get paid? This is why there should be a full house cleaning.
We've had the same medical staff thru two coaching administrations .... with much the same results. The coaches getting poor information and making what looks to be huge blunders based off of that bad medical advice. (Joppru & Boselli ring a bell ?!)

I find it hard to blame the coaches when they obviously didn't hire the medical staff .... the question is , who did ?! And why after so many mistakes are these doctors still employed by the team ??


Dr to Rick Smith - Matt Schaub will be fine , no further problems with the foot.

Smith hands him a fat contract after he plays two very strong games.

Reality sets in towards the end of the season and Schaub falls apart.


Dr's to Charlie Casserley - Boselli will heal up just fine.

Casserley takes Boselli with his first pick in the expansion draft (the contract issues are another story , I don't believe they would have taken him had they known he would never play a down).


Same Dr's over a decade apart making mistakes that are costly to the team.
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We've had the same medical staff thru two coaching administrations .... with much the same results. The coaches getting poor information and making what looks to be huge blunders based off of that bad medical advice. (Joppru & Boselli ring a bell ?!)
Not particularly directed at you but to medical discussions generally, I think folks are looking way too close to home and not looking at the league wide system. Every team is tight lipped about injuries. Every team has some bad medical results. Doc is great and his information is fantastic to have around here but even he will say he tends toward putting out the full range of possibilities rather than the most optimistic (the latter being the MO for every team out there). Folks here remember when the poorest result happens and forget when the optimistic one turns out like Posey.

What did the Texans docs miss on Joppru or Boselli? They knew about Boselli's operations and chances and the Texans decided to take it. Boselli was also cleared by an NFL appointed independent doc. Willie Roaf was not and then went on to four consecutive pro bowls and an All Pro. Medicine is only partially a science or is an inexact science at best.
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What did the Texans docs miss on Joppru?
Joppru didn't have any injury issues in college if I recall correctly. I think Joppru gets a lot of flak for stuff that couldn't of been predicted by either party.
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Joppru didn't have any injury issues in college if I recall correctly. I think Joppru gets a lot of flak for stuff that couldn't of been predicted by either party.
Joppru is why you should not fall in love with a player when there are better options/value available!
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Joppru is why you should not fall in love with a player when there are better options/value available!
Oh I don't disagree there were better picks, but I don't think he was a terrible one either. He only later became awful when he couldn't play. There were no indications that that would be the case.
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Who without cherry picking results?
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Who without cherry picking results?
Will post something after I get home & review old notes.

this is from page 52 under mock thread (far back as it goes 2009). but off top of my head we where crying for OL then too. Also a big physical nose guard, guess some things never change....

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well just finished watching the OSU USC upset game & came away dissapointed with that trojan D, the offense not being to far behind.

first start with Rey Maualuga, his reaction time & reads are a step slow not to mention has a hard time locating a small target. Has all the measureables except plays out of control or not smart I don't know which in any case a top 5 pick is too high would much rather have Selvie.

second, Taylor Mays is a very impressive physical athlete as are most USC starters but is raw, unpolished & plays out of control don't know where his head is at either.

third, Brian Cushing seems more like a good fit in space for what the Texans need from the OLB position but I just didn't notice him much at all in the backfield something I need to see in order to sign off drafting him in the 1st rd. for the Houston Texans.

However, Clay Matthews did impress despite getting undercut by undersized Jacquizz Rodgers (ran for 186 yards and two touchdowns) has a natural abilty to live in the backfield decent speed & athletic ability but first & foremost smart. while not a first rd. talent Clay is the kind of player I was hoping for in Adibi. based on what I saw not to mention his pedigree I would grade him a solid 3rd/4th rd. pick. his football background is both impressive & exciting for his dad was Clay Mattews LB Cleveland Browns and Atlanta Falcons from 1978 to 1996. His brother, Kyle, lettered at safety on USC's 2003 national championship team & uncle Bruce, was a 3-year (1980-82) letterman offensive guard at USC who earned All-American honors in 1982 and then played with the Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans from 1983 to 2001. His grandfather, Clay Sr., was on the football, wrestling and swimming teams at Georgia Tech in the 1940s and then played in the NFL with the San Francisco 49ers in the 1950s talk about lineage

Sorry I got a little carried away silly me you can keep scrolling down to also find rds. 2 & 3. no Clay Matthews.
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I must have repressed the 2003 draft, it was stinky. Only player that matters was Andre Johnson. Texans took Tony Hollings in the supplemental draft which turned out costing the first pick of the 2nd rd. omg then Bennie? wow just terrible, both reaches with huge bust potential for where they took them. Now I remember how much I hated Casserly & why I started doing my own draft work, cause they made me
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Don't see the logic of cutting Jonathan Joseph considering how little depth (experienced or not) we have back there and the same for OD. Actually ESPECIALLY OD because Garrett Graham has shown nothing being hte primary TE.

Freeing up money or not, it can easily blow up in our faces if the guys, rookie or vet, we try to replace them with can't get the job done.
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