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Old 11-07-2013   #81
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I heard plenty of people going " PLEASE RANDY PLEASE " make this kick .
And you guys in the stands probably heard me yelling:

" [letter between "E" & "G"]UUUUUCK! WHY DO YOU HAVE A JOB YOU CLUB FOOTED SON-OF-A-3ITCH!?!"

From home and I know I don't live anywhere NEAR Reliant. The Texans should HAVE to fire him. He should realize he could suck a Winnebago trough a coffee stirrer and just vuggin' QUIT the game of football. He had his day in the sun in college. He was given a shot in the pros and VUGGED it up. Now he needs to move on gracefully before a group of angry fans tries to pull a Nancy Kerrigan on him.
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And you guys in the stands probably heard me yelling:

" [letter between "E" & "G"]UUUUUCK! WHY DO YOU HAVE A JOB YOU CLUB FOOTED SON-OF-A-3ITCH!?!"

From home and I know I don't live anywhere NEAR Reliant. The Texans should HAVE to fire him. He should realize he could suck a Winnebago trough a coffee stirrer and just vuggin' QUIT the game of football. He had his day in the sun in college. He was given a shot in the pros and VUGGED it up. Now he needs to move on gracefully before a group of angry fans tries to pull a Nancy Kerrigan on him.
So that was the sound I heard. I looked over at my brother who was watching the game with me and said "Do you hear that? That's the sound of ultimate suffering. I made that sound when the Oilers left Houston. Some poor long-suffering Texans fan out there makes it now."

Thought it sounded like you.
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So that was the sound I heard. I looked over at my brother who was watching the game with me and said "Do you hear that? That's the sound of ultimate suffering. I made that sound when the Oilers left Houston. Some poor long-suffering Texans fan out there makes it now."

Thought it sounded like you.
My throat is STILL sore from that. Some cops came over because the neighbors complained, but the cop who arrived was a Cowgirl fn so he was laughing at me rather than telling me to keep it down.
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I've been a big supporter of the idea that maybe Kubiak was handcuffing Schaub, but this admission from AJ completely opened my eyes. Schaub is limiting this offense, not Kubiak. Schaub will take the safe route rather than throwing the dice, if given the choice. Schaub is also less than capable of making off schedule plays if he has to scramble or is pressured.
This is something I've been saying (and I was a strong Schaub supporter.)

The way this offense is designed, someone should always be open. It's on the QB to read the defense and let that take him to the receiver that should be open. Back in the old days, I got down on HWWNBN because his definition of open was standing without anyone within 10 yards of the receiver AND the receiver looking back and making eye contact.

Schaub's definition of open includes throwing the ball to where the guy should be. He doesn't have to SEE the guy's open to throw the ball. BUT... there are some throws he's just not going to make because he doesn't trust either himself or the receiver OR he just doesn't see it as open. That's the definition of a game-manager QB. He's not going to make throws he thinks are risky. But for this type of QB to work, he's got to correctly evaluate the risks. Schaub has not been doing that since the end of last season.

Keenum's definition of open includes stuff that Schaub would never consider open. Keenum's willing to make more throws than Schaub is. He's willing to take risks.

Those same guys were open for Schaub but he wouldn't take the chance.

So... it's not Kubiak or his offense that's not going to take the risk and it never has been. Kubiak's offense, when run right, can be damned explosive. I just hope Keenum can keep it up and this week, I hope Dennison proves to be a better play-caller than he was last week.
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In defense of Keenum, our defense gave up 27 points on Sunday. When Schaub was playing our defense gave up about 28 PPG, however about 10 ppg was a direct result of defensive/special teams scores. So if the defense only gave up the 18 ppg they were actually giving up in the first 7 games, we win this easily. That does even take into consideration 3 missed FG and the 4th and 1 failed conversion. So the opportunities were there, but I don't believe anyone can honestly blame QB play as the reason for this loss.
To be clear about my message, my post wasn't intended to be an indictment of Case. I LOVE his gunslinger mentality and his infectious enthusiasm. The team seems to love it also.
Right now, the fanbase seems to love it.
All I'm saying that lovefest from the fans will evaporate if it doesn't soon translate into wins.
We fans are fickle like that.
...but I doubt that's news to anybody.
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And you guys in the stands probably heard me yelling:

" [letter between "E" & "G"]UUUUUCK! WHY DO YOU HAVE A JOB YOU CLUB FOOTED SON-OF-A-3ITCH!?!"

From home and I know I don't live anywhere NEAR Reliant. The Texans should HAVE to fire him. He should realize he could suck a Winnebago trough a coffee stirrer and just vuggin' QUIT the game of football. He had his day in the sun in college. He was given a shot in the pros and VUGGED it up. Now he needs to move on gracefully before a group of angry fans tries to pull a Nancy Kerrigan on him.
Dread, you DO know that the record for the longest field goal in NFL history is held by a man who's club-footed, right?? Sixty-three yards. It's been tied three times but never beaten.

Tom Dempsey of the New Orleans Saints.


...or was "son-of-a-b*t@h the insult??

In short, to label Bullock "club-footed" is giving him too much credit. He's not that good.
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“That should be more than enough to disspell the idea that Kubiak was limiting where the QB could throw.

I've been a big supporter of the idea that maybe Kubiak was handcuffing Schaub, but this admission from AJ completely opened my eyes. Schaub is limiting this offense, not Kubiak. Schaub will take the safe route rather than throwing the dice, if given the choice. Schaub is also less than capable of making off schedule plays if he has to scramble or is pressured.
I've argued until I'm blue in the face (which is a really tough transition) that Schaub has been the guy making the reads and deciding where he felt he could be safest with the ball. It's hardly ever the play-calling. It's the decision and actions of the guy with the ball in his hand after the snap that makes the difference.

Schaub has become Capt. Checkdown which, in turn, made him more predictable.
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Dread, you DO know that the record for the longest field goal in NFL history is held by a man who's club-footed, right?? Sixty-three yards. It's been tied three times but never beaten.

Tom Dempsey of the New Orleans Saints.


...or was "son-of-a-b*t@h the insult??

In short, to label Bullock "club-footed" is giving him too much credit. He's not that good.
He wasn't club footed, I don't think. He was born without toes on his right foot and without fingers on his right hand. IIRC, club foot deals with the foot being twisted or contorted.

I like the analogy, though.
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He wasn't club footed, I don't think. He was born without toes on his right foot and without fingers on his right hand. IIRC, club foot deals with the foot being twisted or contorted.

I like the analogy, though.
well his shoe looks like a club, pretty sure thats where the term comes from
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When thinking about the demise of Schaub, I keep thinking of the play on Thanksgiving where he throws the ball in the dirt, when there was no defender around him for miles.

The receivers seem to love playing for Case, because he makes plays FOR THE RECEIVERS by fighting to BUY MORE TIME for them. Schaub never could make plays for the receivers by scrambling or "throwing the receivers open" deep.
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When thinking about the demise of Schaub, I keep thinking of the play on Thanksgiving where he throws the ball in the dirt, when there was no defender around him for miles.

The receivers seem to love playing for Case, because he makes plays FOR THE RECEIVERS by fighting to BUY MORE TIME for them. Schaub never could make plays for the receivers by scrambling or "throwing the receivers open" deep.
I think that's very true. With Schaub under center you start counting the moment he takes the snap. At about 4 if he hasn't thrown the ball you pretty much know the play failed and he's going to either dump it to a well covered RB or (more likely) throw it away.
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With the new rules , I think the teams who play a wide open passing game and counter punch with the run are best . I think that's one of the Texans downfalls is playing like a lead is safe . That and missed FGs , pick 6s , elbows to the back of the head , hitting the QB out of bounds , and so on .

I know many agree. I think it's an attempt to control the clock and keep the ball out of the other teams hands, but when that conservative play calling ("turtling" as I've read in this forum) too often results in 3 and outs, you'd think after a few losses like that, it would become evident that maybe we just keep playing to our strengths rather than worry about what the other team might do. Given the apparent resurgence of an offensive pulse and our questions on defense, I'm praying they figure it out and start playing to our strengths rather than this ball control philosophy. The same oatmeal for years has gotten old.
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I know many agree. I think it's an attempt to control the clock and keep the ball out of the other teams hands, but when that conservative play calling ("turtling" as I've read in this forum) too often results in 3 and outs, you'd think after a few losses like that, it would become evident that maybe we just keep playing to our strengths rather than worry about what the other team might do. Given the apparent resurgence of an offensive pulse and our questions on defense, I'm praying they figure it out and start playing to our strengths rather than this ball control philosophy. The same oatmeal for years has gotten old.
It's only ball control offense when you can steadily convert on 3rd down. The Colts with Payton Manning were an example of playing to their strengths. At times people complained about them running up the score and passing in the 4th quarter, but that's what they were able to do. Rather than run the ball ineffectively and punt the ball, they decided to play to their strengths. Without the running game that the Texans had back in 2011, they really need to consider whether they're trying to control the clock or just turtling.
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I love the fact that Case makes the deep throw. I don't think you can win in the NFL if you don't threaten the deep ball, because the DBs will sit on routes (see Matt Schaub pick 6)

That said, teams are now going to be gameplanning for Keenum. Maybe AJ can still beat them down the field. I do think that Kubiak has more options now and that will have a huge impact on this offense.

Keenum still has to improve on some things. He missed a lot of short slant routes. He recognizes the blitz, but doesn't make the right decision (or flat out misses the blitz).

All in all, I think when we have 2 healthy running backs, this offense will really shine. Arian Foster being out has really hurt this team.
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I love the fact that Case makes the deep throw. I don't think you can win in the NFL if you don't threaten the deep ball, because the DBs will sit on routes (see Matt Schaub pick 6)

That said, teams are now going to be gameplanning for Keenum. Maybe AJ can still beat them down the field. I do think that Kubiak has more options now and that will have a huge impact on this offense.

Keenum still has to improve on some things. He missed a lot of short slant routes. He recognizes the blitz, but doesn't make the right decision (or flat out misses the blitz).

All in all, I think when we have 2 healthy running backs, this offense will really shine. Arian Foster being out has really hurt this team.

Agreed but hey, now's the perfect time for him to do it.
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Lack of Touchdowns aside, I think Andre Johnson is pretty much a lock for the pro football Hall of Fame. If he has another three or four more strong seasons, I don't see how he will not get in. I'd love to see him win that Super Bowl ring most importantly.

At 2-6, our 2013 season is on the edge of disaster but I do believe we'll beat the Cardinals, Raiders and Jaguars during the next three games to reach 5-6 and be back in the race for the final wild-card spot in the AFC. We'll all take that I'm sure.

Even though it's still pretty bleak that we can beat the Broncos or Patriots at home, much less the Colts on the road (0-11 all time). So finishing 7-9 this season seems likely but you never know. Crazier things have happened before.
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I've been a big supporter of the idea that maybe Kubiak was handcuffing Schaub, but this admission from AJ completely opened my eyes. Schaub is limiting this offense, not Kubiak...
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I've argued until I'm blue in the face (which is a really tough transition) that Schaub has been the guy making the reads and deciding where he felt he could be safest with the ball. It's hardly ever the play-calling. It's the decision and actions of the guy with the ball in his hand after the snap that makes the difference...
Agree, it's been Schaub all along. He checks down short by nature, which shortens the field for the defense, and he can't extend a play with his legs.

Case in point, look at what Alex Smith has done to Dwayne Bowe. Alex Smith's conservative decisions have turned Bowe into a ghost. (3-time 1000 yard WR who had a 15 TDs just three years ago). Bowe is no AJ and one could argue Smith>Schaub today, but it's the same dynamic. Michael Crabtree was a "bust" until Kaepernick got the nod.

Game management is nice. But you need something more dynamic to contend for it all. I'm not sure if Case is the answer... but his play has shown us what "the answer" should look like. And it just doesn't look like Matt Schaub.
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Agree, it's been Schaub all along. He checks down short by nature, which shortens the field for the defense, and he can't extend a play with his legs.

Case in point, look at what Alex Smith has done to Dwayne Bowe. Alex Smith's conservative decisions have turned Bowe into a ghost. (3-time 1000 yard WR who had a 15 TDs just three years ago). Bowe is no AJ and one could argue Smith>Schaub today, but it's the same dynamic. Michael Crabtree was a "bust" until Kaepernick got the nod.

Game management is nice. But you need something more dynamic to contend for it all. I'm not sure if Case is the answer... but his play has shown us what "the answer" should look like. And it just doesn't look like Matt Schaub.
The funny thing is , IMO , the league has zeroed in on this which means he's that predictable . I remember one game after a pick 6 , Kubiak reamed him and then Schaub threw a couple deep . He was making the defense cover 30 yards and not worry about spying the QB on a Boot .
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I like the fact that Case Keenum isn't afraid to throw the ball up for AJ to make a play!!

I like that, I LIKE THAT A LOT!!!!!
We'll see if Schaub was afraid, or coached. It's been awhile, but Schaub has tossed it up for the big guy a time or two in the past. The last 'skins game comes to mind.
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We'll see if Schaub was afraid, or coached. It's been awhile, but Schaub has tossed it up for the big guy a time or two in the past. The last 'skins game comes to mind.
Schaub's done it a few times, but just doesn't do it regularly enough. How many times have you screamed at the TV because Schaub missed a wide open receiver and checked down? A lot for me.

I seriously doubt that Kubiak would ream Schaub for scoring too quickly or too often. TD's are much more important than TOP.

IMO, Schaub knows he doesn't have the arm to sling it like Case does, especially after his foot injury.
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