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View Poll Results: Will Gary return to coaching the Texans?
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Old 11-06-2013   #61
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It IS 2 different topics. The fact that some people call for Kubiak to get fired for weeks or even years then use the "he should retire - it's good for his health" crap is self-serving garbage. They don't care one bit about his health they just want Kubiak gone..
I do that...and I'm not ashamed of it. It's bascially short hand for 'I would never wish bad health on anyone' with 'If this is what it's going to take for change I'll take it. After all it took an injury to finally get Schaub pulled'.

There are bad people in the world, but I don't think people that want to see recent events force change should be included in that category. Frankly we're seeing the frustration start to boil over because the current Texans regime would be well out of second chances with any other owner. And most with 'real jobs' can't imagine the current level of suck occuring in their workplace without SOMETHING being done. And yet the Texans stay the course...
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And most with 'real jobs' can't imagine the current level of suck occuring in their workplace without SOMETHING being done. And yet the Texans stay the course...
Here are my problems with that. First, the NFL is so far away from the "real" business you just can't compare. 31 teams end every year by missing the playoffs or losing their last game of the year. Every year teams have to figure out what is the best for the club - change or stability. If this was the real world there would be many shades of success, not just the Superbowl and 31 failures.

You can go ahead and say it's time for a change with the Texans. I do too. I am Superbowl starved tbh. Does change mean you will be successful in the future? We could get a Jim Harbaugh and be instant successes right? We could also get Bruce Matthews, Jason Garrett or Greg Schiano.

Moving on from Kubiak is a HUGE risk for McNair. Kubiak is a know commodity. He's had success. Enough? Maybe not. There ARE legitimate reasons he's failed in the past. There ARE legitimate reasons to let him go. McNair has to weigh them and decide what is best for the team. If he decides to move on, will the replacement be better, same or worse? Do we really know someone will be better?

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Andy Reid. It was time to move on. Philly fans were disgusted seeing their team fail time and time again. They could care less that the team had 9 playoff appearances, 4 NFC champion game appearances and 1 Superbowl appearance in 14 years under Reid. The Eagles bring in a fresh coach with an innovative system. Have they been awesome after the coaching change? Nope. They are 4-5 after Reid took them to a terrible 4-12 season. Improved? Maybe. Was it Reid's fault they sucked? Yeah - he sucks so bad as a coach he's lead his new team with a garbage offense to 9-0.

Keep Kubiak and you have stability. Stability means players on the roster are also known commodities. Scouts know what the coaches like. Players know what the coaches like. Players know the system and can mentor new players...

Fire Kubiak and you have a great big ?.

Changes are needed but to what extent they are made is really up to McNair.
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I understand your point about not letting perfect be the enemy of good enough.

And I don't think that we are likely to see an Andy Reid style turnaround no matter who we hire.

But something has to give. I'm not going to go into my list of Kubiak issues again but it's time for a new direction. The excuses of his supporters are endless. The team needs a bit of fresh air IMO. I have ZERO interest in seeing Kubiak with a full season of Keenum....not when he was the reason why Schaub was being run out there long after his milk had gone bad...

I have friends that jump their support from team to team...some from winner to winner...some because they admire a particular player (usually a QB which often means jumping from successful team to sucessful team). I tend to pick a regional team (I went to HS in Houston but no longer live there and I can't stand Jerry Jones and the Cowboys). At one point I might have questioned their loyalty but I now see that they enjoy football much more than I do.

The Kubiak regime and their inability to address obvious performance over their (long tenure) is making me lose interest in football in general (especially since my 'other' team...the Longorns have similar coaching issues of their own). I couldn't even enjoy the first half the other night because this team is so snake bit that I knew the other shoe was going to drop BEFORE Kubiak collapsed. After while there is only so much a fan can take.
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