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Old 11-05-2013   #21
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I am sure he deeply appreciates the abundance of concern for his health from those who wanted him fired.
lol! yeah, I'm sensing an undercurrent of agenda with the "he should just retire for health reasons" in many posts.
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lol! yeah, I'm sensing an undercurrent of agenda with the "he should just retire for health reasons" in many posts.
I don't think you'll win the Sherlock Holmes award for that one.

Most realists want him to be healthy but think he should also be gone. For many reasons before this incident. Now you can add the distraction of everyone around him waiting for him to faint again.

Kubiak supporters should tell me this: Why do you want to continue to run him out there now that he has a a history of medical problems and is EASILY the most haggard looking NFL coach on the sidelines each week? Yes.... I want him gone. But I also don't want to see him have a major stroke on TV either.
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I think it is interesting to compare the comments related to a well-liked coach's health to those of a well-liked players health. There was a lot of sentiment that Kubiak should move on before this incident, but it seems clear posters are softening on the opinion that he should be fired. Contrast that to a player like DeMeco Ryans. He gets hurt and opinion goes way down - he's overpaid, he's no good anymore, throw the bum out.

I understand this isn't an apples to apples comparison because of salary cap and roster number considerations. However, a head coach's health problems can have a huge impact on the success of the team. Why risk it or treat the coach any differently than a player? He might not be 100% anymore.

I think it is because in the end coaches are seen as people and players are seem as commodities (to put it politely).
Yes this is exactly my point, thanks for the clarity, I personally have wanted Kubiak gone, but not that gone. I am also skewed as my father had a massive stroke and we took care of him for 5 years before he passed. I would not wish this on anyone.
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I don't think you'll win the Sherlock Holmes award for that one.

Most realists want him to be healthy but think he should also be gone. For many reasons before this incident. Now you can add the distraction of everyone around him waiting for him to faint again.

Kubiak supporters should tell me this: Why do you want to continue to run him out there now that he has a a history of medical problems and is EASILY the most haggard looking NFL coach on the sidelines each week? Yes.... I want him gone. But I also don't want to see him have a major stroke on TV either.
Ever seen Tom Coughlin? That dude sleeps in a coffin and becomes the undead every morning to coach a dead team.

I just don't like the whole survey thing for some reason. I can't quite pinpoint why, but we are talking about a man's health, his livelihood, and his life in a cavalier fashion. Let's show some class folks. At least let's get him back to health, see what the Dr's say and take it from there.

I've called for Kubes scalp at times too, but I can't wish anyone bad health. That's just bad karma right there.
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I am sure he deeply appreciates the abundance of concern for his health from those who wanted him fired.
wtf? As hard as it for you to grasp some people may not like him as a coach but there is no doubt Kubiak is a very good person. Does that mean I want him to by my coach no, does that mean I want him dead. Absolutely not.
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He'll be back next week to continue the education of Case and the tailoring of the offense to his skillset.
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He'll be back next week to continue the education of Case and the tailoring of the offense to his skillset.

I'll say I am more sure than unsure that Kubiak will return as head coach.

However, I can foresee a "changed" man, a man quite a bit more faithful in things beyond his control...if ya know what I mean.
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Old 11-05-2013   #28
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I don't think you'll win the Sherlock Holmes award for that one.

Most realists want him to be healthy but think he should also be gone. For many reasons before this incident. Now you can add the distraction of everyone around him waiting for him to faint again.

Kubiak supporters should tell me this: Why do you want to continue to run him out there now that he has a a history of medical problems and is EASILY the most haggard looking NFL coach on the sidelines each week? Yes.... I want him gone. But I also don't want to see him have a major stroke on TV either.
I consider myself a realist and yes, I want to see him healthy first and foremost. Additionally, I'd like to see him replaced. However, the realist in me knows McNair's not going to get rid of him this year. Which is why I try to stay away from filling my noodle full of fantasy coaches and threads of the like.

Man, if one episode gives him a history of medical problems I must be considered a burrito away from being 6 foot under.
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I think he said he will already miss the cards game
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I just don't like the whole survey thing for some reason. I can't quite pinpoint why, but we are talking about a man's health, his livelihood, and his life in a cavalier fashion. Let's show some class folks. At least let's get him back to health, see what the Dr's say and take it from there.
That's why I just voted 'unsure' because I am unsure of WTF this poll is asking.
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wtf? As hard as it for you to grasp some people may not like him as a coach but there is no doubt Kubiak is a very good person. Does that mean I want him to by my coach no, does that mean I want him dead. Absolutely not.
Be that as it may, DB's statement about the anti-Kubiak crowd "wishing he'd retire for health reasons" is spot on. It's about as disingenuous as it gets.
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Kubiak should come back. Pure speculation, but I would say that the stress of a 5 game losing streak and a potential full blown QB controversy took its toll and greatly contributed to a TIA.
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I think it is interesting to compare the comments related to a well-liked coach's health to those of a well-liked player's health. There was a lot of sentiment that Kubiak should move on before this incident, but it seems clear posters are softening on the opinion that he should be fired. Contrast that to a player like DeMeco Ryans. He gets hurt and opinion goes way down - he's overpaid, he's no good anymore, throw the bum out.

I understand this isn't an apples to apples comparison because of salary cap and roster number considerations. However, a head coach's health problems can have a huge impact on the success of the team. Why risk it or treat the coach any differently than a player? He might not be 100% anymore.

I think it is because in the end coaches are seen as people and players are seem as commodities (to put it politely).
For instance, see the current Arian Foster thread. The Texans gave him so many touches last year he was virtually guaranteed an injury plagued season this year.

Now he is being labeled a quitter because he's hurt.
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Gary will be the coach as long as Gary wants to be the coach because Bob likes him.
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Given what we now know he had a mini stroke do you think Gary will return to the Texans as a coach?
Let's hope so!
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I lost my mum to a stroke. If you're reading this think of your family and retire.

The only stress you should have now is screaming grandchildren.

You have been givem a warning. Don't ignore it like my parent did
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I lost my mum to a stroke. If you're reading this think of your family and retire.

The only stress you should have now is screaming grandchildren.

You have been givem a warning. Don't ignore it like my parent did
Well lets not forget strokes happen due to underlying pathology (atrial fibrillation, hyerptension, hyperlipidemia). Trust me Gary is getting a full workup of why this stroke happened and its underlying cause will be treated. Strokes can be prevented.
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I hope he's medically able to come back, I just hope he doesn't. But if we can't have it both ways, let's wish him a recovery. Football is just a game.
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i voted unsure...

but i would expect him to if hes completely healthy
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I am sure he deeply appreciates the abundance of concern for his health from those who wanted him fired.
I'll bet he, at least, can see the two things are totally different.

I want him gone as Head Coach, I have for years. That doesn't mean I wish any harm to the guy. I'm thrilled he's doing well. In a perfect world he would come back and be the coach we all want him to be, but I don't think he'll be any different in terms of HC when he comes back.
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