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Old 10-31-2013   #261
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Because the folks that need to believe these players are in compliance with the NFL drug policy are the decision makers for the other 31 NFL teams. The players can claim innocent until proven guilty, they can provide a successfully passed test they took outside the auspices of NFL oversight, and they could even potentially win a grievance against the Texans, but in the court of the real-world NFL, their innocence (or alternately, their ability to become innocent and stay that way) is 100% at the discretion of other teams who can place that burden upon them if they so choose.
I guess my point is was any evidence provided to ESPN that they smoked marijuana? If not, the players grievance should be with the network. I may have missed it, but isn't it all speculation and rumor? Sure, the 3 "dudes, 1 cigar" story is suspicious and awkward, but so far that's all, huh?
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I guess my point is was any evidence provided to ESPN that they smoked marijuana? If not, the players grievance should be with the network. I may have missed it, but isn't it all speculation and rumor? Sure, the 3 "dudes, 1 cigar" story is suspicious and awkward, but so far that's all, huh?
I think the speculation was going to be there regardless of ESPN or anyone else reporting it. Look back at the first few pages of this thread (which was started prior to ESPN publishing anything), and you'll see it coming up on a pure conjecture basis.

Again, going back to your burden of proof concept, if I'm with another NFL team, I'm gonna assume the worst whether ESPN, Fox, TMZ, or Incarcerated Bob reports it or not. Then I'm gonna expect whichever guy I might be interested in to change my mind.
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I guess my point is was any evidence provided to ESPN that they smoked marijuana? If not, the players grievance should be with the network. I may have missed it, but isn't it all speculation and rumor? Sure, the 3 "dudes, 1 cigar" story is suspicious and awkward, but so far that's all, huh?
If they smoked no weed, the dug test's will show it. Evidently all 3 did take a test. Why don't they have jobs if they can pass a league drug tesr?
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If they smoked no weed, the dug test's will show it. Evidently all 3 did take a test. Why don't they have jobs if they can pass a league drug tesr?
NONE of them passed the NFL drug testing. http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...&postcount=212
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Go to any smoke shop in town and they have a variety of detoxing kits, masking agents, and even synthetic urine. All manufactured for one purpose. I have friends that use these techniques all the time and not one has ever lost a potential job due to a drug test.

I heard the Wood interview today. He sounds sincere, but that, in and of itself, proves absolutely nothing, just like his independent drug test.

As mentioned up thread, the hair test is the one you cannot beat, afaik.
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Go to any smoke shop in town and they have a variety of detoxing kits, masking agents, and even synthetic urine. All manufactured for one purpose. I have friends that use these techniques all the time and not one has ever lost a potential job due to a drug test.

I heard the Wood interview today. He sounds sincere, but that, in and of itself, proves absolutely nothing, just like his independent drug test.

As mentioned up thread, the hair test is the one you cannot beat, afaik.
Most hair tests can test back to 90 days. Those who shave their head thinking that they have beaten the system will be invited back with a week or two with instructions to let the hair grow. [Hair grows at ~1/2" per month.........with total abstention, shaving AFTER 1 1/2" of hair growth needs to occur to remove all signs of substance in the hair]
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Wood has just been picked up by the Pats.....sneaky little bastards
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Wood has just been picked up by the Pats.....sneaky little bastards
Pats going Super Bowl now! he's the final piece of the puzzle and will bust out 150 yards against us when we meet.
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Wood has just been picked up by the Pats.....sneaky little bastards
Signed to their practice squad.
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Pats going Super Bowl now! he's the final piece of the puzzle and will bust out 150 yards against us when we meet.
Yeah...a break out game for him against his "old" team...he'll probably "smoke" us for 200 yards.
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Belichek is happy to pick up good players we drop. He's giving PT to Chris Jones who's actually playing well and who we stupidly cut and now will definitely make Cierre Wood a useful part of their offense.
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Belichek is happy to pick up good players we drop. He's giving PT to Chris Jones who's actually playing well and who we stupidly cut and now will definitely make Cierre Wood a useful part of their offense.
Well if he'd learn to draft...
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Belichek is happy to pick up good players we drop. He's giving PT to Chris Jones who's actually playing well and who we stupidly cut...
In just 6 games Chris Jones is rated 66th out of 67 DT/NT overall, and 67th/67 against the run by PFF(>25% snaps). He has 6 sacks. Earl Mitchell is only 60th/67.
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In just 6 games Chris Jones is rated 66th out of 67 DT/NT overall, and 67th/67 against the run by PFF(>25% snaps). He has 6 sacks. Earl Mitchell is only 60th/67.
How is a DT with 6 sacks rated as the worst DT in the game?
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How is a DT with 6 sacks rated as the worst DT in the game?
Probably because he's getting manhandled in other areas. Most DTs don't get a lot of sacks because that's not what they're supposed to do.

But I liked Chris Jones a lot and I was hoping he'd be a good player for us in the future.
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Probably because he's getting manhandled in other areas. Most DTs don't get a lot of sacks because that's not what they're supposed to do.

But I liked Chris Jones a lot and I was hoping he'd be a good player for us in the future.
Yeah, the Pats are ranked 30th in the NFL against the run (by yardage per game). That's obviously not all Jones, but he's a part of it.
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Gooden, 29, was selected by Baltimore in the third round of the 2008 NFL draft. He played in just one game for the Texans this season and did not record a tackle. Gooden’s played for the Ravens, San Francisco and the Texans during his six-year career.
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Hey, Cierre Wood.... I hope that was some killer pot you were smoking because it cost you a chance to be a likely starter for a run-heavy offense in your rookie year in the NFL.

That's why they call it "dope".
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I'm watching Eagles crush Packers & they have several cut/free agent/traded former Texan players, Barwin, DeMeco (who is having outstanding game, not like Texans need ILB help) Casey, Carmichael & Maehl.
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I'm watching Eagles crush Packers & they have several cut/free agent/traded former Texan players, Barwin, DeMeco (who is having outstanding game, not like Texans need ILB help) Casey, Carmichael & Maehl.
so, three of those dudes are barely seeing the field...means and says nothing. Oh, and the eagles are not a good football team.
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