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Old 11-04-2013   #101
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This sucks. Kubiak is a good man.
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having a mini stroke isn't good. it can be a precursor for the massive stroke that can kill you in the future. but there is treatment. best of health gary.

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having a mini stroke isn't good. it can be a precursor for the massive stroke that can kill you in the future. but there is treatment. best of health gary.
I worked with a man who had a series of mini strokes. It permanently altered his personality and cognizance, while leaving his motor and speech skills intact. It was still very sad.
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This is just an FYI, nothing more.....Good Read & Informative

ATLANTA -- ESPN College GameDay host Lee Corso suffered a mild stroke May 16 and was hospitalized for eight days. On Saturday, less than four months after losing his ability to speak and partial use of his right arm and leg, Corso was back in front of the cameras alongside Chris Fowler and Kirk Herbstreit hosting college football's most popular pregame show.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...#ixzz2jjwfjekQ

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More recent numbers reveal that closer to 10% of patients having a TIA will have a stroke within 3 months.........with half occurring within the first 48 hours. The prognosis is very closely attached to identifying the exact source and identifying the risk factors leading to the source. Prompt control of the source of the problem such as controlling any possible arrhythmia (or maintaining blood thinning for avoidance of further clot formation if the arrhythmia can't be controlled), or performing a carotid endarterectomy (clean out of a plaque-lined carotid artery) will minimize the risk of future stroke. If the problem involves plaque formation (especially if accompanied by hypertension [high blood pressure]), it is typically reflection of what is going on elsewhere in the rest of the cardiovascular system, and future mortality is more commonly tied to a cardiac event rather than a stroke.
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Gary will be spending some time with doctors being tested to determine the source/cause of the TIA and how to best treat it to avoid a second TIA or worse -- whether with medication or surgery.

This can run the gamut from being a "lucky" warning that's easily treatable to the beginning of more serious problems. It's wait & see.
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Oops, didn't see Dr. CND in da house. I defer to his expertise, which is in no way related to Holiday Inn Express.

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More recent numbers reveal that closer to 10% of patients having a TIA will have a stroke within 3 months.........with half occurring within the first 48 hours. The prognosis is very closely attached to identifying the exact source and identifying the risk factors leading to the source. Prompt control of the source of the problem such as controlling any possible arrhythmia (or maintaining blood thinning for avoidance of further clot formation if the arrhythmia can't be controlled), or performing a carotid endarterectomy (clean out of a plaque-lined carotid artery) will minimize the risk of future stroke. If the problem involves plaque formation (especially if accompanied by hypertension [high blood pressure]), it is typically reflection of what is going on elsewhere in the rest of the cardiovascular system, and future mortality is more commonly tied to a cardiac event rather than a stroke.
If it's afib related, perhaps Methodist's recently announced grant will provide another solution -- Valderrabano is my brother's cardiologist:

Houston Methodist Receives Multi-Million Dollar Grant From National Institutes of Health to Study Another Way to Cure Atrial Fibrillation
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Gary was very lucky to be where he was able to get treatment quickly. I wish him the best my father had a massive stroke and was never the same. I hope Gary and his family the best, time to focus on your health Gary.
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I think that it sounds like the TPA worked. The difference between a TIA and a stroke has to do with the duration of symptoms and whether or not it shows up on an MRI. If the TPA is able to completely dissolve the clot, then it does not cause permanent damage and thus does not show up as tissue injury on an MRI.

Certainly afib is a potential culprit, as is vascular disease, but most of the time it ends up being "occult", meaning no specific reason can be found.

He probably will get a CT arteriogram of his brain, an MRI, a carotid duplex, an echocardiogram, and probably a TEE and will probably be sent home on a cardiac event monitor.

Hopefully all will be ok. I was actually getting excited about the way he was running the offense with CK.
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Hopefully all will be ok. I was actually getting excited about the way he was running the offense with CK.
Yes, finally stuff was clicking, all the more reason to believe this city has been cursed by the football gods.
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>Yes, finally stuff was clicking, all the more reason to believe this city has been cursed by the football gods.

This was the very first thing that ran through my mind at halftime..

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Yes, finally stuff was clicking, all the more reason to believe this city has been cursed by the football gods.
Yes, it seems this team can't catch a break this season. Wonder if we'll ever get to see them win a SB. It just amazes me how a team with so much talent can have so much bad luck. Maybe we are cursed! Well, at least we aren't the only ones. The Falcons have to be feeling the same way.
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Any other team would rally around and win one for their coach. Raiders with Al Davis when they beat us with their 10 man offense, Chuck Pagano's Colts last year, Art Modell's Ravens. We crap ourselves and lose for them, drop one in KC in Bum's memory and then choke a huge first half lead for Kubes, the way Kubes would have wanted it.
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Hey thanks, care to tell me what's so stupid about it? Do other teams not rally around these kinds of things all the time?
I'm not saying what you said was stupid, but the Kubiak incident happened smack dab in the middle of the game.
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Any other team would rally around and win one for their coach. Raiders with Al Davis when they beat us with their 10 man offense, Chuck Pagano's Colts last year, Art Modell's Ravens. We crap ourselves and lose for them, drop one in KC in Bum's memory and then choke a huge first half lead for Kubes, the way Kubes would have wanted it.
Ugh, I would say that's a bit different than your head coach dropping in the middle of a game, there are bigger things at stake then the game. Football teams are very close, and Kubiak tends to be a players coach. Him going down on the field was distracting and pretty chaotic at halftime, we didn't make good adjustments.

And our field goal kicker sucks balls..
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Oops, didn't see Dr. CND in da house. I defer to his expertise, which is in no way related to Holiday Inn Express.



If it's afib related, perhaps Methodist's recently announced grant will provide another solution -- Valderrabano is my brother's cardiologist:

Houston Methodist Receives Multi-Million Dollar Grant From National Institutes of Health to Study Another Way to Cure Atrial Fibrillation
Valderrabano was my doc too. Great guy and he knows what he is doing. Wish I had gone to him before my failed ablation. My regular cardiologist was Mohammed Attar and the electrophysiologist who screwed up my ablation was Jie Chen. Good guy but I'll leave it at that. After that I went to Valderrabano and he took care of me with Attar. Regret not going to him sooner for ablation vs. Chen.
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Ugh, I would say that's a bit different than your head coach dropping in the middle of a game, there are bigger things at stake then the game. Football teams are very close, and Kubiak tends to be a players coach. Him going down on the field was distracting and pretty chaotic at halftime, we didn't make good adjustments.

And our field goal kicker sucks balls..
True on the last part for sure and I appreciate the previous two posters who were able to respond in a mature manner. I just think the players would have had more of the "win one for Kubes" mentality. Maybe our offense did but our fat kicker and awful defense did not. I just see all these teams rally around their sick/dead coaches and owners and we don't. We rally around letterman jackets and 20/20/20 and Super Bowl or bust.
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It will be interesting to see how both Kubiak and McNair handle this going forward. Seems it would be difficult for Gary to "step away" from coaching as he has been at this so long. Hopefully, he will be alright but to put in those hours in that stress has to be "addicting". Will McNair allow him to continue coaching without 100% medical clearance? When Gary bent over I thought "stroke" and then "dang, he was coaching a great game."
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True on the last part for sure and I appreciate the previous two posters who were able to respond in a mature manner. I just think the players would have had more of the "win one for Kubes" mentality. Maybe our offense did but our fat kicker and awful defense did not. I just see all these teams rally around their sick/dead coaches and owners and we don't. We rally around letterman jackets and 20/20/20 and Super Bowl or bust.
You could tell in the second half that the game was kind odd, it felt odd in the stands. Heck even I was trying to figure out what happenned to Kubiak during the game, it definitely impacted the team, how could it not?
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