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Old 10-29-2013   #81
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This is where I got my order.

http://www.walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2014.php

Regardless, I think we finish the season somewhere in the 10-12 range.
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This is where I got my order.

http://www.walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2014.php

Regardless, I think we finish the season somewhere in the 10-12 range.
I'd go with GBN because he factors in SOS.
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This is good news, Carrethers has gotten better this yr? He has always had lack of stamina issues. He definitely has talent. I didn't watch him this yr. I did see some of him last yr. He was impressive.

If he has gotten better I wouldn't wait until the 3rd for him. I would pick him in the 2nd. Big men that can move are hard to find. Do you have any links for this yr for him?
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Carrethers made 16 tackles in a loss to Louisiana-Lafayette. For a linebacker or a safety, that would be a high total, but not unheard of. For a 330-pound defensive tackle, it's positively outrageous. Carrethers (6-foot-2, 330 pounds) was credited with six solo stops and 10 assists for the Red Wolves. For an interior defensive lineman, 16 tackles typically represents a month or more of production.

By comparison, Tennessee nose guard Daniel McCullers, one of the nation's most highly regarded draft prospects at the position, has made 24 tackles in his eight games this season..
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...arkansas-state


Carrethers started every game as junior in 2012, finishing the season with a career-best 68 tackles that were the sixth most on the team and the most by an A-State interior defensive lineman since Jon Bradley recorded 68 as well in 2002. He averaged 5.2 tackles per game to rank tied for 39th in the Sun Belt, but ahead of all other interior defensive linemen in the league.

http://www.kait8.com/story/22843520/...ard-watch-list

http://www.kait8.com/story/22378588/...13-freaks-list

What got my attention Steel, was a heads up I received prior to season indicating that Carrethers had decided to go after the NFL. Like most kids he had talked about it but had not committed. He met with coach and was put on rigid diet losing about 25 lbs to apprx 332. I lost sight of him until recently deciding Mitchell is not the answer and only two Nose's stood out. Nix and...Carrethers. Will follow him rest of season. Anyone remember Mister Cobble whom I mocked last two seasons and he kept returning to school? I was able to watch him recently and he is no longer on my radar. Same with DaQuan Jones who was non factor Saturday.
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I'd like to see the Texans spend that first round pick on the best OL prospect they can find. I miss the days of Munchak, Matthews, and "Dino" Steinkuhler. I want to see the Texans build an offensive line that can hold the fort down for a decade.

If Keenum lights it up and we appear to have our QB I'd like to use that first pick on the OL. It will have been 6 drafts since we took Duane Brown in the first. It's time to do the line right for a change.
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walter has a drafting Mike Evans in his latest mock. that would certainly be a surprise. i dont think it happens though
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I'd like to see the Texans spend that first round pick on the best OL prospect they can find. I miss the days of Munchak, Matthews, and "Dino" Steinkuhler. I want to see the Texans build an offensive line that can hold the fort down for a decade.
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walter has a drafting Mike Evans in his latest mock. that would certainly be a surprise. i dont think it happens though
Did not know that. I have Evans on my current board and have discussed with Beerlover and Rmartin65. Evans is over 6'5" 225 and apprx 4.58 speed. 1100 yards with 23 per catch. I like giving Keenum another target and Evans would also reduced concern about TE as he plays like one. Very good & willing blocker & runs A&M's routes well. A red shirt soph who imo will come out if Manziel does. From Galveston, he just turned 20 and can get much better. AJ/Posey/Hopkins and Evans.
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Evans in the first, Manziel in the second?
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Evans in the first, Manziel in the second?
Trade back just a few spots then take Evans, use pick acquired w/2nd to move back into 1st for Manziel
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Trade back just a few spots then take Evans, use pick acquired w/2nd to move back into 1st for Manziel
It'd be like a reverse Luck-Fleener situation. Everybody wins: everyone in the media can continue to complain that Evans bails out Manziel too much and we get an awesome QB/WR connection.
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Trade back just a few spots then take Evans, use pick acquired w/2nd to move back into 1st for Manziel
I don't know about that , Evans may end up being a top 10 pick ....

I would love to have the guy but this team has so damn many holes and that list of holes likely grows when the season ends too. Ninja & Wade Smith expire , I could see several guy's cut - OD , Manning , Ed Reed then you have a couple guy's who will become FA's who will be looking for a payday - Tate , KJax and you have the QB situation .... what a freaking mess.
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I don't know about that , Evans may end up being a top 10 pick ....

I would love to have the guy but this team has so damn many holes and that list of holes likely grows when the season ends too. Ninja & Wade Smith expire , I could see several guy's cut - OD , Manning , Ed Reed then you have a couple guy's who will become FA's who will be looking for a payday - Tate , KJax and you have the QB situation .... what a freaking mess.
Kinda sad after 8 yrs.

How did they get in this situation?
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Did not know that. I have Evans on my current board and have discussed with Beerlover and Rmartin65. Evans is over 6'5" 225 and apprx 4.58 speed. 1100 yards with 23 per catch. I like giving Keenum another target and Evans would also reduced concern about TE as he plays like one. Very good & willing blocker & runs A&M's routes well. A red shirt soph who imo will come out if Manziel does. From Galveston, he just turned 20 and can get much better. AJ/Posey/Hopkins and Evans.
what a receiving core!!! wouldnt have to draft another WR for 10 years!!!

posey is really underrated by the way. hopefully with keenum and a few more plays in the spread he should get his fair go, i want to see him on the park more because he could develop into a top WR.
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Trade back just a few spots then take Evans, use pick acquired w/2nd to move back into 1st for Manziel
now your talking !!!
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If we got both Evans and Manziel I'd probably be an insufferable douche, just lettin' y'all know
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Kinda sad after 8 yrs.

How did they get in this situation?
Well I think it boils down to one position failing us this year - QB. Without that , we probably don't have all those other issues exposed.

The team spent big $$$ just a couple offseasons ago to fill holes on the back end of the defense and make a good team a contender .... then the QB position falls apart in the year most expected them to make that deep run in the playoffs.


If Schaub performs like he did in 2010 and 2011 .... things probably seem a lot different than right now.
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Well I think it boils down to one position failing us this year - QB. Without that , we probably don't have all those other issues exposed.

The team spent big $$$ just a couple offseasons ago to fill holes on the back end of the defense and make a good team a contender .... then the QB position falls apart in the year most expected them to make that deep run in the playoffs.


If Schaub performs like he did in 2010 and 2011 .... things probably seem a lot different than right now.
Also you lose Mario Williams then Connor Barwin as your DE's, paired with Cushing going down back to back seasons. Swapping out over rated Ed Reed with under appreciated Glover Quin doesn't help things either
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Also you lose Mario Williams then Connor Barwin as your DE's, paired with Cushing going down back to back seasons. Swapping out over rated Ed Reed with under appreciated Glover Quin doesn't help things either
Wait,I thought mario couldn't play or is overrated.
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Wait,I thought mario couldn't play or is overrated.
Bills are not all that bad but still Mario Williams value to this franchise should have been worth far more & he would be a bigger piece of the solution than in Buffalo given Texans were on a playoff run. Buffalo offered him stupid money for sure but could have been more justified staying in Houston all things being equal. Makes me wonder what JJ Watt's price tag will be? 150 million
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Hypothetical situation, if we end up in the 12th spot in the draft and trade down to around 20-21 we should be able to pick up a mid 2nd round pick as compensation. This would help us alot with being able to fill another team hole with high quality talent. Would you guys support such a trade down, and are there any teams that you can realistically think of that would trade up with us? Any teams with multiple 2nd round picks? Maybe someone going after a QB that falls or Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans, possibly Anthony Barr etc...
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