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Old 10-23-2013   #41
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This has to be the most absurd thing I've ever seen on Texanstalk and I've even spent time in the no spin zone!
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The Packers and Seahawks are the only contenders that have a lot of capspace and need a WR. I could see either of them making a play for AJ if he were available, but the 12 million or so in dead money makes it nearly impossible for the Texans to do. They would also need to move Antonio Smith and Wade Smith to get even close to staying under the cap. Although, I would love to see what AJ looks like with Aaron Rodgers throwing to him...
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The sense I'm getting is that Andre had some kind of selfish agenda to accept a longer term deal, and I won't cast that light on him. The team asked him to help them out, if it didn't benefit the team then why go through with it in the first place? Andre Johnson is a class act, and he will always do what's best for the team first. Did it benefit him? Sure it did. Did it benefit the team? Most certainly. Why would it behoove him not to take a bonus and alleviatec cap space? Good question, but it didn't only benefit Andre.

Maybe yourself, or someone with a firm understanding of cap management/finance could explain it to a blue collar guy like myself, what would be the benefit of dragging out the pay longer vs short term lump sum? Almost like the lottery? Do you get more up front in a cash payout vs interest over X amount of years?

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He's had several opportunities to bail if he wanted to. He chose to stay, so he'll stay
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I want to see AJ retire a Texan, never tainted by another team's uniform.

And I get the feeling he feels the same way, judging by his words and, more importantly, his actions.

There are many HoF caliber players who never get a ring or even a chance to play the big game. It's a damn shame, but it's a team sport.

Teams can be built virtually overnight with the right coaching staff, especially one with solid talent in many areas like the Texans right now.

But AJ needs a great QB to take him to the promised land. Schaub is not it, so hopefully this team can figure it out before he wears out.
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AJ will retire a Texan, get his number retired, and get his statue.

He unfortunately will never get a ring.
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AJ will retire a Texan, get his number retired, and get his statue.

He unfortunately will never get a ring.
Not as a player, but I could see him being signed on as a WR coach in the future. He seems like the kind of guy who would continue to keep working in the NFL in the future, and I'm sure the Texans organization would love to have him in some capacity.
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Doesn't matter what he wants .... It makes no sense for the team to trade #80 , no return on the investment and a massive cap hit.

The idea of giving AJ an opportunity with a contender is nice and all .... Its just not realistic.


/lock thread.
Wait, what!?!
Did you just say that Andre Johnson hasn't given this team any return on it's investment in him? That's kinda what "no" means in this context. None. Not any. Zero.
Is that your message??
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Wait, what!?!
Did you just say that Andre Johnson hasn't given this team any return on it's investment in him? That's kinda what "no" means in this context. None. Not any. Zero.
Is that your message??


I think he is saying you wouldnt get anything in trade now or what you got wouldnt be any better for the team than AJ is now so net zero
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I think he is saying you wouldnt get anything in trade now or what you got wouldnt be any better for the team than AJ is now so net zero
hmmm... okay there's some logic in that.

And for the record, I don't want to see A.J. in any other uni either. But if he asked Uncle Bob to leave - and he's the kind that would do it on the down low - Uncle Bob would task Rick Smith to make it happen.

No one would be very happy about it.
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When did the Texans become a charity? A 3rd rounder is absurd. I frankly don't care if AJ gets a SB ring unless it is with the Texans. And most importantly it would kill the Texans' cap with dead money.
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aj isn't going anywhere. He is our Ernie Banks.
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even if it means he gets a ring?

Him getting traded from the Texans does not guarantee a ring. Look at Tony Gonzales.
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Wow, the comment " I don't care if he gets a ring unless its with the Texas" is uber selfish and I can't agree with it whatsoever.

I hope Dre gets his ring before retirement, with or without the Texans. He deserves it.
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man im starting to think about it. i wish we keep him, but i think he deserves a chance with a contender.
would like to see him with brady.

possibly frees up money, maybe gets us a 3rd rder and AJ gets to make a deep playoff run the next 2 years.

i know its not gunna happen, but id like to see it. guy is a hf that deserves better than this.
No player dessrves the chane to get a ring. Dude has been well compensated. Tbe fact is that he rathered getting sure thing money than finder a better team.
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When did the Texans become a charity? A 3rd rounder is absurd. I frankly don't care if AJ gets a SB ring unless it is with the Texans. And most importantly it would kill the Texans' cap with dead money.
Agreed. I have a deep respect for AJ but it will do nothing for me personally if he leaves and gets a ring.

He needs to stay and retire a Texan.
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Wow, the comment " I don't care if he gets a ring unless its with the Texas" is uber selfish and I can't agree with it whatsoever.

I hope Dre gets his ring before retirement, with or without the Texans. He deserves it.
If he gets a ring with another team, fine, but I won't give a crap about that. What I care about is the Texans. The Team. While I do admire individual players on The Team quite a bit, if they leave and go play for another team, they are now The Enemy.

Texans as a team first, loyalty to individual players second. Sorry, I can't go along with your "selfish" remark. It just seems silly to me.
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If he gets a ring with another team, fine, but I won't give a crap about that. What I care about is the Texans. The Team. While I do admire individual players on The Team quite a bit, if they leave and go play for another team, they are now The Enemy.

Texans as a team first, loyalty to individual players second. Sorry, I can't go along with your "selfish" remark. It just seems silly to me.
100% agree. Good post Thorn. Sorry - MSR.
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Wow, the comment " I don't care if he gets a ring unless its with the Texas" is uber selfish and I can't agree with it whatsoever.

I hope Dre gets his ring before retirement, with or without the Texans. He deserves it.
Fans - short for fanatic - are supposed to be selfish about their team. Undying loyalty and allegiance will cause that in a person.

So go ahead and root for the individual player. The rest of us will continue to root for the team.
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The Ravens only got a 6th for Bouldin who's cap hit is close to what AJ's will be next year .... I think they are comparable players at this point in their careers..
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