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Old 10-21-2013   #81
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Yes did you get that everyone?

If you run to try to tackle someone, expect a helmet full force into your knee that will end your season and maybe more.

So sad to see this happen, I feel bad for myself as a Texans fan for not having Cushing on the field...can't imagine how Cush feels.
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Seriously everyone needs to wake up on this.

- Cushing was not engaged by anyone else.
- Jamal didn't hit him from behind.
- Jamal was in clear sight of Cushing.
- Cushing decided to ignore Jamal Charles.
- Jamal Charles blew up Cushing cause of the above.
- The hit was not illegal.
Even in high school clipping is illegal. Deliberately striking the side of the knee falls under that rule.
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Cushing is done regardless I wish him well next year. This year is another sacrifice. I had a feeling he would get hurt midseason it's inevitable.
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Even in high school clipping is illegal. Deliberately striking the side of the knee falls under that rule.
No it doesn't you clearly don't understand the rules..
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CBS is reporting a broken leg and torn acl. Truth or bull****?
All CBS reports I have reviewed are stating LCL and leg or fibula (part of leg) fracture. They report that this is the same leg as the ACL he suffered LAST year. I've not seen a report of an ACL tear. He could still have an ACL, but that would be likely a partial ACL since it wasn't supposedly evident on physical exam alone......and then would be only diagnosed AFTER he undergoes the MRI later today.



This is the type of injury [See above] that you would not want to find after full evaluation......one including the tibial plateau, a separate LCL tear in addition to a fibula fracture. Since the plain x-rays did not mention displaced tibial fracture(s), the MRI would probably only reveal stress fracture(s) of the tibia plateau.........along with more definitive evaluation of knee ligament and cartilage structures.

EDIT: Now the new information from McClain is that he has a separate LCL tear and a LOWER fibula fracture (I still don't know for sure that he does not mean LOWER LEG (which still could include the proximal avulsion fracture scenario) instead of LOWER FIBULA, since the fibula is considered part of the lower leg-----will have to wait until after the MRI at Kubiak's conference to clarify this). His prognosis, if these are the only injuries, are still good for return to pre-injury performance. Keep in mind, that from last year's ACL, Cushing has done very well when moving forward and backward, but he has definitely lost lateral movement, impeding his sideline to sideline coverage. Independent of this latest injury, this may or may not ever return.
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Do people not understand what a cut block is? That is what Charles did and what all RB's do because they CAN'T FREAKING BLOCK LINEBACKERS ONE ON ONE! RB's from high school learn how to cut block defenders, and if it's outlawed it will lead to a hell of a lot more pressure on QB's from defenses which will lead to more hits on QB's etc. That block by Charles was NOT dirty and anyone saying it is needs to realize that if that was dirty then we are the dirtiest team in the league because even our O-linemen cut block all the damn time.
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Yes did you get that everyone?

If you run to try to tackle someone, expect a helmet full force into your knee that will end your season and maybe more.

So sad to see this happen, I feel bad for myself as a Texans fan for not having Cushing on the field...can't imagine how Cush feels.
Don't get me wrong it sucks to lose Cushing, but part of that play is just bad on Cushing. If anything I'm upset with losing a major player we just signed to a huge contract. I don't like it anymore than anyone else but Cushing used poor technique on that play. I don't know how you can see that Jamal hit him with his helmet in the knee, oh wait you just didn't see this above?

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Do people not understand what a cut block is? That is what Charles did and what all RB's do because they CAN'T FREAKING BLOCK LINEBACKERS ONE ON ONE! RB's from high school learn how to cut block defenders, and if it's outlawed it will lead to a hell of a lot more pressure on QB's from defenses which will lead to more hits on QB's etc. That block by Charles was NOT dirty and anyone saying it is needs to realize that if that was dirty then we are the dirtiest team in the league because even our O-linemen cut block all the damn time.
No sh*t. Look at what our O-line does.
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Yeah have to agree with others. Hates losing Cushing but there was nothing wrong with what Charles did. Running backs do that all the time including our own. There's a reason defensive players are taught how to deal with low blocks. Hell, I use to cut quite a bit as well and I was a freaking corner. So don't expect a running back to go up high on a linebacker unless he's of some good size. Just won't happen.

Here's to hoping a strong and timely recovery for the Cush.
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In this NFL.com link, you will find a VIDEO of the play and the aftermath..............be warned, it is difficult to watch.
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You were most definitely talking about Cushing, in a negative way, not talking to him...
That's exactly the point I was trying to make.
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...You're an asshat, pure and simple. The injuries he's had the last two years were from playing football at a high level, not from being injury prone.
This is bs. History has shown over and over that Cushing is extremely injury prone. I stated that fact and somebody implied that saying that about Cushing was equivalent to saying it to his face.
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That's exactly the point I was trying to make.

This is bs. History has shown over and over that Cushing is extremely injury prone. I stated that fact and somebody implied that saying that about Cushing was equivalent to saying it to his face.
There is nothing Cushing could have done about his last two injuries . If he was Tom Brady they would implement a rule .
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Tests confirm broken fibula, torn LCL for Texans LB Brian Cushing. ACL, PCL, MCL, patella are fine. Three-month recovery timetable for Cush.
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Tests confirm broken fibula, torn LCL for Texans LB Brian Cushing. ACL, PCL, MCL, patella are fine. Three-month recovery timetable for Cush.
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There is nothing Cushing could have done about his last two injuries . If he was Tom Brady they would implement a rule .
The first knee injury I totally agree, the second one he used 0 technique and let the guy get a clean shot on him. It sucks that the timing on the shot happened at the same time he planted his foot. If had had gotten his hands on the guy the guy as they are taught, and delivered the blow instead of taking the blow, the outcome might have been different.

It's a tough break for him, but doesn't look good long term.
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Tests confirm broken fibula, torn LCL for Texans LB Brian Cushing. ACL, PCL, MCL, patella are fine. Three-month recovery timetable for Cush.
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There is nothing Cushing could have done about his last two injuries . If he was Tom Brady they would implement a rule .
Well... He could have jumped over Charles instead of running knee first directly into the low block.

But, the Jet's game injury... Nothing anyone could have done about that. I believe that kind of block has been made illegal.
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