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Old 10-20-2013   #441
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I don't know what to expect today. And that's what makes this game exciting for me. I could see it going really well or really poorly.

But my gut tells me that Case is going to play well and will make some plays that the other two guys don't make.

But this is his first NFL start so I don't expect him to be flawless and I could see him not seeing some coverage correctly and throwing a pick(s). He has his flaws, but like Kubiak said cheerfully at his last press conference, I like Cases instincts and that's what I'm hoping to see today.

The off schedule plays. The throws that Schaub couldn't/Didn't make. The ability to scramble when no one is open and pick up any positive yardage at all.

But as far as I'm concerned the rest of the year should be a Case/TJ Audition (TJ should get another shot if Case stinks). And since I'm already convinced on what Schaub is, I don't need to see any more. IF no one on the roster can play NFL QB at a high level....Well, now we know. Time to move on and grab THE GUY in the draft.

But really all this Schaub talk is just in one ear and out the other. Case being terrible or not has no bearing on what I think of him and his future here. IMO, it's either Case (with a small chance it's TJ) or it's a rookie next year. I'm past Matt Schaub already.
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Going through my posts prior to Keenum being announced as starter and found this from week ago. Now if the rest will come true:

At the moment I have a slightly different take than you as I have watched Keenum for several college years and compare him favorably to all 2014 QBs. Add in that he will have two years NFL seasoning and hopefully some actual game experience to evaluate, I at this moment rate him + a #1 pick at another position over selecting a QB. In my perfect world of optimism, I trade MS + Tate for Browns WR Josh Gordon (despite team saying not up for trade) and their own third round. That leaves them two firsts, a second and another third from Steelers. Just to clarify, Gordon at Baylor had issues with marijuana but the 2013 suspension for first two games was due to taking cough syrup with codeine in it for a strep throat in February. Link:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/93...pended-2-games

A change of scenery for MS could revive his career and Tate is a tantalizing morsel for a RB starved Cleveland team.
I would do that trade.
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Every texan fan should root for Case to play well enough to keep his job and to move on from the schaub era.
Every Texan fan should root for a Texans victory, regardless who our QB is.
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if case struggles badly kubiak will go back to schaub. His job is on the line hence why he leapfrogged keenum over yates.

Every texan fan should root for Case to play well enough to keep his job and to move on from the schaub era.
We're not going to win with Case, Schaub, or Tj if the run game does not dominate, if the defense does not dominate. & I don't mean good enough to win, they need to dominate, they need to play so well that we win in spite of the QB, in spite of the Special Teams.

So it's not about if Case struggles or not. It's about the spark. If there is a spark, then Kubiak will have to try to figure out if it was because our fans cheered Schaub's injury, if it's because Case was named starter, or if it's because Wade's daddy passed away. Personally I couldn't care less what provided the spark, as long as there is one. If it's there, I'm not changing anything.

If it's not there, then Kubiak has to decide what gives us the best chance to win after the bye. IF Case struggles & Matt is healthy I have no doubt what Kubiak is going to do.
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We're not going to win with Case, Schaub, or Tj if the run game does not dominate, if the defense does not dominate. & I don't mean good enough to win, they need to dominate, they need to play so well that we win in spite of the QB, in spite of the Special Teams.

So it's not about if Case struggles or not. It's about the spark. If there is a spark, then Kubiak will have to try to figure out if it was because our fans cheered Schaub's injury, if it's because Case was named starter, or if it's because Wade's daddy passed away. Personally I couldn't care less what provided the spark, as long as there is one. If it's there, I'm not changing anything.

If it's not there, then Kubiak has to decide what gives us the best chance to win after the bye. IF Case struggles & Matt is healthy I have no doubt what Kubiak is going to do.
Sorry, but we have too many g'damn weapons on offense to NEED the defense to dominate to win.
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Sorry, but we have too many g'damn weapons on offense to NEED the defense to dominate to win.
Agreed. I meant win a Super Bowl. We don't have an elite QB, this team was built to win a Super Bowl without an elite QB. With the play makers we have, should've been able to make Schaub look elite. But he fcked it up. Again & again & again.
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A lot exaggerated. Matter of fact I don't recall hearing or reading that anywhere.

But we can agree to disagree. There is no reason at all to put Schaub back into a game wearing a texans uniform unless keenum and Yates get hurt. Or by some miracle we make the play offs and case gets hurt.

Other than that I couldn't care less about any irrational case hype. I don't care. I'm rooting for whichever qb can help this team win. I strongly feel that isn't Schaub, and I am not sold that it's keenum but I want to give him a shot.

But the inly reason you responded to that post is because you have irrational Schaub love.
But, but TK don't even like Schaub.
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I'm not arguing that.

The Case love has been ridiculous & unwarranted. Only a fanboi would say otherwise.
You're describing your hard headed love for Matt Schaub actually along with your undying infatuation for Kubiak. Both of which you'll most likely deny ever existed when both of them are gone as you do with just about every other subject you argue for years and then deny ever caring about. I'm calling it out now. The only reason you continue to make these wild claims of people way over hyping Keenum is because you don't want to see Schaub replaced.
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1 quarter and I'm sold. We have a QB that should get every chance succeed as the starter for the rest of this season.
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1 quarter and I'm sold. We have a QB that should get every chance succeed as the starter for the rest of this season.
Agree...no reason to go back to schaub or yates
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Agree...no reason to go back to schaub or yates
Sage soundly outperformed Carr and Schaub but never won the job. I doubt Gary lets Case start.
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Sage soundly outperformed Carr and Schaub but never won the job. I doubt Gary lets Case start.
If this kid keeps up his play like this, its gonna be impossible to not start him....even if we lose....

But then again, let him go back to schaub...it'll be the fastest way to get him thrown outta town b/c the fans would be at his house next.....let the new coach continue to work with keenum...
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Sorry, but we have too many g'damn weapons on offense to NEED the defense to dominate to win.
Unless those weapons are always sitting on the sidelines while the defense lets the opponents casually march down the field on 90+ yard drives.

Is there a record for most 90+ yard rives allowed in one season?
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If this kid keeps up his play like this, its gonna be impossible to not start him....even if we lose....

But then again, let him go back to schaub...it'll be the fastest way to get him thrown outta town b/c the fans would be at his house next.....let the new coach continue to work with keenum...
In 2007 Sage threw 4 TDs in the 4th quarter when he came in the game for an injured Schaub. Schaub led 0 scoring drives, and threw for 23 yards in an entire half.

Sage then he went 4-1 as a starter with the lone loss being to the 13-3 Colts.
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In 2007 Sage threw 4 TDs in the 4th quarter when he came in the game for an injured Schaub. Schaub led 0 scoring drives, and threw for 23 yards in an entire half.

Sage then he went 4-1 as a starter with the lone loss being to the 13-3 Colts.
Sage should have been the qb here, not Schaub.
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