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Old 10-18-2013   #81
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No, i was talking about the callers who were calling in...
Oh....well yeah man, I mean that's talk radio callers for you. You gotta ignore them for the most part when listening (not breaking news I know....just saying)
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Oh....well yeah man, I mean that's talk radio callers for you. You gotta ignore them for the most part when listening (not breaking news I know....just saying)
Lol....yeah i alternate between 610 & 790..largely b/c of the callers...i just cringe & can't believe some of the stuff they say sometimes.

someone with a stupid take (or Zeirlein & Clanton go on their dumb ass tangents) comes on 790 i switch to 610...someone with a stupid take comes on 610 i go back to 790...

If both have callers on with stupid takes i go to mike & mike on 97.5.
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RG III
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all came out the gate winning right I expect the same think for Keenum if not this game then deff the next game at home
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all came out the gate winning right I expect the same think for Keenum if not this game then deff the next game at home
All of those guys also have better HC's than we do too...well, maybe not so much Tanehill..jury is still out on their coach.
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all came out the gate winning right I expect the same think for Keenum if not this game then deff the next game at home


well if you expect the same from Case as the above you might have set the bar very high for him
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All of those guys also have better HC's than we do too...well, maybe not so much Tanehill..jury is still out on their coach.
I dunno, I don't think Philbin's just a schmuck. The Dolphins just need some cohesiveness and for Brady to retire and they'll be on top of the AFC East, with some competition for the Jets if Geno continues improving.
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These have typed what I have been posting/thinking.

That said, I am not going stop wishing the best for "hope and change" keenum if he has a bad game against the hottest pass rush in the league. One good or bad game does not make a career. Remember Matt Flynn once dropped 6TDs in a real NFL game, and could not keep a QB job after two teams gave him real $$$$.
Flynn and Kevin Kolb who's buried on the bottom of the depth chart in Buffalo. Dating back to Klingler, Ware and these four guys don't necessarily give one the warm-n-fuzzies about record setting QBs outta UH. I'm hoping that Keenum will shatter that mold.

I'm pulling for the kid to do very well. Just sucks that the arena at which he makes his debut is one of the toughest places in the NFL to make his first start.

If he can do it there he can do it anywhere.

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people need to wait and at least let him suck before passing judgement. NFL history is littered with QBs who werent heralded coming out of college never got drafted barely got drafted, and still went on to become successful nfl QB.

Keenum is that guy. He has that it factor. He has two intangibles right off the bat that Schaub doesnt have:

1. A great qb name.

2. He's a good looking guy.

Just look at all the great QBs and superbowl champions, they all have great names and are fairly good looking. Something Matt Schaub is not. Guys follow a guy who is good looking, has the girl, and has a great name. They are not following anybody who doesnt look good and doesnt have a great name.

Just think about all the hotshot highschool/college QBs, they all have this trait. You cant say schaub has. Just think of all the great qbs in history, they share this two very important traits.

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people need to wait and at least let him suck before passing judgement. NFL history is littered with QBs who werent heralded coming out of college never got drafted barely got drafted, and still went on to become successful nfl QB.

Keenum is that guy. He has that it factor. He has two intangibles right off the bat that Schaub doesnt have:

1. A great qb name.

2. He's a good looking guy.

Just look at all the great QBs and superbowl champions, they all have great names and are fairly good looking. Something Matt Schaub is not. Guys follow a guy who is good looking, has the girl, and has a great name. They are not following anybody who doesnt look good and doesnt have a great name.

Just think about all the hotshot highschool/college QBs, they all have this trait. You cant say schaub has. Just think of all the great qbs in history, they share this two very important traits.
Ok Case we already like u , lord way to toot your own horn homie. None the less i have faith in you, good luck Sunday !!!
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people need to wait and at least let him suck before passing judgement. NFL history is littered with QBs who werent heralded coming out of college never got drafted barely got drafted, and still went on to become successful nfl QB.

Keenum is that guy. He has that it factor. He has two intangibles right off the bat that Schaub doesnt have:

1. A great qb name.

2. He's a good looking guy.

Just look at all the great QBs and superbowl champions, they all have great names and are fairly good looking. Something Matt Schaub is not. Guys follow a guy who is good looking, has the girl, and has a great name. They are not following anybody who doesnt look good and doesnt have a great name.

Just think about all the hotshot highschool/college QBs, they all have this trait. You cant say schaub has. Just think of all the great qbs in history, they share this two very important traits.
So what constitutes a great qb name? Obviously David Carr isn't a good name, because the ladies sure liked his looks. Does this mean Andrew Luck and RGIII are going to amount to nothing?
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Exactly. We'd still be wanting him to start just to check him out, but there wouldn't be this much buzz. At work yesterday it was pretty much all the "water cooler" talk with the UH alumni going nuts.

And I'm guilty of it as well. Not that I have a problem with it. It's the first genuinely positive thing to happen around these parts in a while.
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The other thing about the Foster example is that most thought he was a 2nd-3rd round talent coming out...Him going undrafted was largely b/c he interviewed bad at the combine or somewhere...

i believe he also has said in the past that he had many offers to go sign with other teams...he chose to come to Houston b/c he felt like he had the best shot to become a starter here.....& the zone blocking system fit him better.
I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Who's the " MOST"?
What does it have to do with Foster going undrafted?
What is your point? Sorry, but I fail to see it.
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the foster example is way over used here and foster himself I believe made mention before that he wasnt putting in the work that he should have been in practice and once he realized the opportunity that was possible he got his sh!t together


Further UDFA RB moving to NFL leader is rare so lets not use it as though its common. Same goes with UDFA QB making it to a starting roll and then keeping it
We all know that it's rare, doesn't mean it never happens.

The fact remains that there have been players, QB included, that made a career out of the NFL as starters.

When people bring up the point that Keenum can't be a starter because he went undrafted, they have no basis.

Sure, they can say that it's uncommon.
I would agree with that.
But when they say that it's impossible, they are totally wrong.
Because the fact does not agree.
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We all know that it's rare, doesn't mean it never happens.

The fact remains that there have been players, QB included, that made a career out of the NFL as starters.

When people bring up the point that Keenum can't be a starter because he went undrafted, they have no basis.

Sure, they can say that it's uncommon.
I would agree with that.
But when they say that it's impossible, they are totally wrong.
Because the fact does not agree.
It's not impossible but very unlikely
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With the nuclear reactor meltdown on this board over VY, I think it's hilarious people are complaining about Keenum hype.
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what is it with houston sports teams not wanting to give hometown kids chances? Rashard Lewis, Carl Crawford, Vince Young, yet they give Kubiak all the leeway in the world.
You do know we're the only ones giving Case a chance right?
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what is it with houston sports teams not wanting to give hometown kids chances? Rashard Lewis, Carl Crawford, Vince Young, yet they give Kubiak all the leeway in the world.
VY? Christ
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what is it with houston sports teams not wanting to give hometown kids chances? Rashard Lewis, Carl Crawford, Vince Young, yet they give Kubiak all the leeway in the world.
If anything Houston has a long history of obsession with local/Texas products...how many other cities have the most iconic players in football, basketball, baseball all be local products to the area or at most Texas.

I would argue like with Case, Houston worries too damn much about Houston/Texas players, not the other way.

Oh yeah then there is that coach that just passed, also.

Wait a minute where exactly did Kubiak grow up again?
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people need to wait and at least let him suck before passing judgement. NFL history is littered with QBs who werent heralded coming out of college never got drafted barely got drafted, and still went on to become successful nfl QB.

Keenum is that guy. He has that it factor. He has two intangibles right off the bat that Schaub doesnt have:

1. A great qb name.

2. He's a good looking guy.

Just look at all the great QBs and superbowl champions, they all have great names and are fairly good looking. Something Matt Schaub is not. Guys follow a guy who is good looking, has the girl, and has a great name. They are not following anybody who doesnt look good and doesnt have a great name.

Just think about all the hotshot highschool/college QBs, they all have this trait. You cant say schaub has. Just think of all the great qbs in history, they share this two very important traits.
No offense, but what have you been smoking, and what 60's football movie have you been watching?

Let's see if I can shed some light on this ridiculous notion without going too deep into it. Here are a few right off the top of my head that should do the trick.

Johnny Unitas (Awesome football name, but handsome he is not)
Roger Staubach (Do I need to explain this one?)
Terry Bradshaw (Not a manly first name, nor a handsome dude)
Jim Plunkett (Enough said)
Fran Tarkenton (Again, who names their son Francis? Handsome... Not so much)

Let's not forget "The Great Forehead" Peyton Manning. A girls first name, and could anyone say he is a handsome man?

These are just a few off the top of my head, and I am sure I could go on and on.

IMO it's a ridiculous and shallow idea that if someone has a strong name, and good looks they will be, or have been a successful NFL QB.
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Looks like Manziel.
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